Re: Richard Stallman is responsible for the shrinking economy

In message <gshhmo$dba$1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, FreeRTOS.org
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"Chris H" <chris@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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In message <49ec2c6c$0$26346$8404b019@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, David Brown
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Here's an article that might be of interest regarding the use of open
source software in safety-critical and security-critical software:

<http://www.embedded.com/211600582>

(I've started a new branch, because other branches are getting too deep
to look nice, and too long to find an appropriate leaf to reply to.)

As they are a suppler of Open Source and their business is in the Ada
market it does make them rather biased doesn't it?

As is your view (biased) as a supplier of commercial compilers....

So I am told repeatedly in this NG ... :-) That was my point. They
are no more neutral than I am in this case because their whole business
model and their products rest on it.

These threads are always very predictable - strong pro open source views and
strong anti open source views. I rarely find extreme views to be without
flaw in any walk of life.

Quite so. But usually less extreme out of News Groups. For some reason
NG's seem to amplify them.

Also I disagree with some of their conclusions.

....in particular: "Suppose Boeing were forced to disclose the software
controlling its new 787 'Dreamliner'. Would this suddenly give Airbus a huge
advantage? Most likely not" ahh, actually yes it would.

I agree... and hell would freeze over before they did it for two reasons

1 It would give their competitors a hell of an advantage, for free, on
IP they have spent [at least] tens of thousands GBP/Euro/USD developing.


2 It would show their competitors that despite having spent [at least]
tens of thousands GTBP/Euro/USD developing new IP that it is not
revolutionary despite the press releases and "leaks" that it is earth
shattering.

We are talking BUSINESS in the real world not the mechanics of
developing SW in utopia. Developing ANY software takes time and
resources (which == MONEY). No one give IP or resources away to
competitors without a good reason (i.e. an equal or better pay-back)


", as you can't just lift the 787 avionics and drop them into an Airbus
350." .... no but you can learn alot from the architecture, control
algorithms, models, safety cases etc. etc. All the things that would have
cost Boeing millions upon millions to develop an expertise in.

So why would they want to give this IP to Airbus?

The only reason why the article says all this is because in the cold
light of day the more people buying into it the more business Adacore
get for their tools and consultancy in the aerospace market.

I have no problem with them or the article but it is no less biased than
anything I write.


PS: Richard, having has such a short chat at Nuremberg you me and
bigbrownbeastiebigbrownface should meet for a coffee some time. I
think all three of us have something to chat about.

BTW NO, Neither Richard or I are bigbrownbeastiebigbrownface but we both
know him/her :-)
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