Re: OOP/OOD Philosophy

On 5 Jul 2005 07:01:00 -0700, "krasicki" <Krasicki@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

>Given that *XP practices* are largely rebranded existing good practice

Wait, I thought you said that XP was seat-of-the-pants, Rube Goldberg,
undisciplined, etc. Now it's existing good practice?

>I will assert that no such push exists. I submit to you that XP
>advocates are simply looking outside their shell and discovering that
>good programming practices existed despite their claims.

OK, so is your complaint is more about XP *advocates* and less about
XP itself?

>But failing
>to acknowledge that, XP advocates, as usual, run ahead of the parade
>claiming credit for the celebration.

I think that's interesting since, from the very start, "XP Advocates"
have said that the practices of XP are based on previous best
practices.
>
>Project Mercury would have never gotten off the ground if it had been
>developed in a financial services, insurance, banking, or commericial
>enterprise using *agile* methodologies.

The software for the Mercury Space Capsule was written iteratively.
The iterations were a day long. Unit tests were written in the
morning, and made to pass in the afternoon.

>Let's not sell kool-aid here. There are plenty of places wallowing in
>their own fecal ideas that will get on these newsgroups and testify how
>good it feels - come join us. Be careful not to sound like them.

By the same token, I advise you to try to sound a bit less like Howard
Dean. If you want to engage in a civilized debate over XP, then get
your facts together, and have at it. But spewing emotional baggage
around benefits nobody.


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