Re: database drive code generated software architecture


"Michael Gaab" <mike-g@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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<timasmith@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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An aside:
I am really having a battle with myself as to how to manage developing web
applications with OO and a relational db.

Not only web apps but any application that uses OT and a relational
database.

Mike



What I find *very* interesting is reading Hibernate in action where the
author indicates that to have the data layer map data objects to
business objects is an anti-pattern and they even applaud having the
web server accessing the data objects directly.

I've also read Hibernate In Action but missed that. I check it out.

I cant decide if it is persuasive or pervasive :-)

Not sure what you mean.

Mike


Michael Gaab wrote:
<timasmith@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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While I agree to the concept of having a stable set of interfaces
between the business layer and data layer I have found that generating
business objects which directly map to database tables works for me.


I just finished a web-based project for a company that required me to do
just
that, map each business object to each table in the db. All of this was
done
manually, so each time a column changed in the db, I had to go through
and change the related business object and all of the related stored
procedures.
A time consuming and error prone activity.

This was my first project (and last) for this company so I just followed
what
they had already in place. At the time, my hunch was there must be a
better
way of doing this. (By the way,
I did mention this to others on the team but each time I they became
very
defensive. So I just dropped the idea.) After finishing the project,
I have investigated a number of ORM tools. From what I have read, I
would
*consider* using NHibernate the next time.

If you do map your business objects directly to each db table, I don't
think
you can claim to
be practicing object technology. Sure you are using objects but how do
you
take advantage of the features of OO in the business model. I guess you
could
say the program is object based at best.

Conclusion: The decision as to how to map your business objects to your
db
should be made on a project-by-project basis. Using ORM tools on some
projects may be overkill.

Anyway just my opinion.

Mike



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