Re: (OT) Re: Object identity

been a bit busy


Dmitry A. Kazakov wrote:
On 4 Jul 2006 06:31:31 -0700, Mark Nicholls wrote:

Dmitry A. Kazakov wrote:

Semantics probably is. But what is semantics when foundations are
considered?

?

What's under foundations? It is a meaningless question, because it is
*foundations*, a solid rock. But then, there cannot be any semantics of.
Foundations are meaningless, they give a meaning to everything else. But as
we know, they cannot give any meaning to themselves. You need some other
foundations to assign a semantics to the first ones. (What's under the
tortoise?)

yes


Semantically, the Earth might be held by three elephants, but
who cares?

if you cannot discern it, then I agree....but it is important that we
know it to be true or false....nothing else (in the construction I am
talking about).

You cannot know it about the foundations, because "to know" = "to prove."
You cannot prove axioms. They just are.

hmmmm not so sure.......I know this sounds bizarre.

axiomisation is a descriptive notion (I think)...not a constructive
one.

not sure about that myself......my brain did a srange thing it does
when it gets confused.

I know what your answer will be....and I agree!


You need a second language to question semantics of the first.
I.e. the recursion is still there, broken by language boundaries it
operates languages.

I don't understand the second clause "broken by language boundaries it
operates languages".

It is a recursion of languages, instead of a recursion in a language.

the recusion a languages must be in a meta language?


Can't remember what Platoism (or whatever it is) was all about.

In short that ideas (like numbers and Donald Duck) are real. Which also
means that Donald Duck existed before the Big Bang.

oooo....I'll give all this a miss....my brain is befuddled enough with
life without getting all French (or should it be greek) about it.

Platonism is extremely popular, often subconscious. I don't know why.

lets leave him to the historians and the philosophers.

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