Re: Biz Tree Challenge
- From: "topmind" <topmind@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: 24 Jan 2007 14:03:30 -0800
S Perryman wrote:
topmind wrote:
S Perryman wrote:
I challenge you to produce a half-dozen biz taxonomies where ME or
trees are a safe bet. Just list the taxonomies in outline format:
TM>Node 1
TM>- foo
TM>- - bar under foo
TM>- floo
TM>Node 2
TM>- etc...
And I challenge you to produce a half-dozen "biz taxonomies" from
domains in which you have *actually been involved in developing systems
for* .
No hypotheticals. No "I cannot disclose information" etc.
I expect to see something *real* from you. From your "domain" (whatever
that actually is - because AFAIK you have *never* disclosed any specific
info on what you actually work on) .
Dude, the burden is NOT on me to show that biz trees or ME-lists don't
exist. If you claim unicorns exist, then it is your job to produce
unicorns, not mine. I cannot prove that unicorns don't exist even if
they don't and it is unrealistic to expect such. Unicorns are not
assumed to exist by default. Their existence is considered
"unconfirmed" until the movies or corpses come in. Similarly, biz
trees/MEs are assumed "unconfirmed" until somebody produces them.
ROTLMAO. Back to the unicorns again.
A pathetic argument that I recall was succinctly dealt with last December
by Dmitry Kazakov.
I fail to see the humor. The unicorn analogy is applicable.
As always, you are completely blown out of the water by the simplest
of requests. But to completely nail you (in your own words) :
Again, it is YOUR burden.
I challenge you to produce a half-dozen biz taxonomies where *SETS* are a
safe bet. Just list the taxonomies in outline format:
Before we continue with this, I wish to establish what *your* position
is to make sure beforehand that I won't be wasting my time proving
something non-pivotable to anything.
Is your position:
1. Most taxonomies are best represented as trees (or mutually-exclusive
list items).
2. Most taxonomies are best represented as sets.
3. Most taxonomies are best represented as graphs/networks.
4. Something else?
Node 1
- foo
- - bar under foo
- floo
Node 2
- etc...
(You can multipley the dash numbers by 2 if it helps improve the
visual.)
And for me specifically, I would like to see as many of those
taxonomies as possible coming from domains for which you have
*actually worked on systems development for* .
> Got Trees?
Sorry, I use OO. OO is about *graphs* , not trees.
Then why the fudge are you here on a tree topic fussing about trees?
Are you just here to heckle, or do you any real evidence? This topic is
about trees versus sets, NOT sets versus graphs. I knew something was
fowl.
Another simple thing to blow you out of the water (where will it
end) ...
Dream on, graphboy! Dr. Codd already kicked Buchman's arse on that
anyhow. Live in the 60's forever if you want. Dr. Codd blew you
graphoids out of the water already; i don't have to. Buchman's trash
lives on in OO. New name, same crap.
Regards,
Steven Perryman
-T-
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