Re: Is Procedural Paradigm a basis of OO Paradigm?

On Apr 1, 8:16 pm, "topmind" <topm...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Daniel Parker wrote:
But the fact that you just drop the quote, and make no effort to
convey why Stepanov doesn't like OO, proves Steven's point. You can't
seem to get beyond the assertion "OO bad", you can't dig deeper, and
nobody gets any points for an assertion.

One can read Stepanov's stuff for themselves.

The point is, you're focusing on the quote. Anyone who took this
seriously would be focusing on the reasons. For example, Stepanov
claims that the statement "everything is an object" is not very
interesting. Well, RCM would agree with that, as would a lot of other
people on this group. If you took your hobby seriously, you would be
focusing on the reasons. You don't take your hobby seriously. You're
lazy. If you must practice your hobby, take it seriously, the way the
train people do.

ADT's are poor at modeling biz at non-trivial scales. They are at least not better than sets. Sets are superior to
ADT's in my opinion. ADT's are a nice concept, they just don't plug in well to my domain.

ADT's don't "model" anything, they permit abstraction of operations.
Many third party libraries depend on that.

I assume everyone in comp.object cares about ADTs. You don't care
about ADTs, but we don't care about you.

Regards,
Daniel Parker

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