Re: Whose Fish?


Jordan Marr wrote:
Personally, I don't think these kinds of puzzles are very useful for
comparing the real-world utility of paradigms.

What is not "real world" about solving variance problems? There are
plenty of business uses here. Oh wait, you must mean "real world", as
in "Topmind's world".

It is *not* representative of the apps and issues I have faced. Maybe
I live in a bubble somehow, but perhaps you do also. If I can be
mislead, so can you. You are not the center of the universe; we each
only have one lifetime to live.


Perhaps they are good
for training newbies or practicing concepts, but *not* for comparing
the relative *value* of techniques in a realistic setting/domain.

If this is "newbie training" then you should have no problems
designing a solution.

I don't care about solving training/lab examples anymore. That was 20
odd years ago. I care about real-world stuff now. A tool that helps me
insert my knee into my ear is not going to be of much use unless I
join the circus.


Btw, this NG is not called "comp.object.businessapps", it's called
"comp.object". You continually try to shove every thread you
participate in to your little "business app domain" where they don't
all belong.

But there is already a glut of lab/training examples. We need more of
them like holes in the head.


They are sort of analogous to slam-dunk contests to the game of
basketball. The best slam-dunker is not necessarily the best player. I
have similar complaints about the shape, animal, and device-driver
examples heavily used in OO books.

Relax, I'm not attacking your programming style of choice! I
genuinely want to see this problem solved with a DB. I know it can be
done, and it may even work better. This is supposed to be a fun,
intellectual challenge.

But you are so used to disagreeing with everyone that you are not
seeing it that way.

No, I am right. It's that simple.


You're the one that comes in here and attacks OOP on an OOP discussion
board. If you are going to come in with your big soap box rants, why
do you think YOU get to set all the parameters? "No no, it CAN'T be a
shapes app.. it CAN'T be this.. it CAN'T be about variations..."

Guess what? IT CAN.

I didn't "set all the parameters". I simply gave an opinion on
something. If you don't like my opinion, then either challenge it
directly on the topic, or ignore it. Complaining about me complaining
is recursive hypocracy. If you feel a rant is off topic or
unimportant, simply ignore it. Ranting about rants just leads to more
rants.


That's like someone trying to show me the "ultimate defensive fighting
maneuver" and saying, "attack me! No.. you can't attack me that way!
Attack me with your LEFT hand.. yeah.. BAM! I win again!!"


(BTW, I submitted my source-coded version of Robert C. Martin's
payroll example here a few weeks ago in an attempt to spark debate on
a semi-realistic example.)

Like I said... that has zero to do with THIS thread. Thank you. Oh
right, you're trying to stand on the nearly off topic soap box AND
control the parameters of the argument at the same time. ;^)

Jordan

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