Re: ooad suggestion

On Apr 23, 11:48 pm, Phlip <phlip2...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

And note that a few years ago, this forum would have screamed for a week
or two at anyone suggesting testing could replace up-front design.

Who would anyone bother? This is pretty much a dead news group, if
you hadn't noticed. Traffic is low. Regulars have dropped off. No
new entrants have come in to replace them. The only excitement in the
last while was when threads crossed with that DB group, but that died
out.

At the same time, the OO magazines are long gone. The OO conferences
are gone. OO in a book title doesn't help sell the book anymore. You
don't see books like Meyer or Booch on the desks of programmers much
anymore. Use of UML drawing tools is less common. Most programmers
today have never heard of compilable UML. The OO hype phase is long
gone. The hype of distributed objects, of OO databases, is gone. The
Object Management Group is moribound, has been for a long time. Most
people have never heard of the OO methodologies, the Shlaer & Mellor,
the others. At one time people studied these things hoping that there
were answers, but there never were.

About all that's left is the programming languages, where support for
implementing ADT's is now almost universal. Except even with the
languages, OO in its purest form seems to have been at the beginning,
with later languages departing from the ideal.

Regarding your specific point, a BA friend of mine at a bank was
telling me about this project, it started as a Access database
maintained by one business user on a desktop, it failed audit so it
had to be rewritten, people in other locations wanted to use it too.
So my friend said, there were no business requirements documents
prepared, instead they used something called "XP", and many millions
of dollars and a few years later, they ended up with, well, nothing
really, the project got cancelled. You have your stories, and I have
mine.

But my friend doesn't know about this newsgroup, she wouldn't be
responding here. Doesn't matter. Besides, the hype has long since
moved on, now your friendly Enterprise Architect wants to SOA enable
your entire organization. Companies that haven't implemented a single
web service have already put together governance groups for SOA,
governance but nothing to govern. OO once followed that same path, it
should be recognizable.

-- Daniel


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