Re: Any experience with "The Last One"?

From: Gerry Quinn (gerryq_at_indigo.ie)
Date: 12/01/03 

Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2003 11:19:38 GMT

In article <308jsvgo4v59v28k72ibc5cfdnb9fjp76j@4ax.com>, Brian.Inglis@SystematicSw.ab.ca wrote:
>On Sat, 29 Nov 2003 22:33:55 GMT in alt.folklore.computers,
>gerryq@indigo.ie (Gerry Quinn) wrote:

>>Why is it stupid? - I see no weight of dollars pushing Linux on the
>>desktop. Sensible dollars only go places they think they will be able
>>to come back from, bringing friends.
>
>Europe and Asia are pushing Linux on the desktop and application
>vendors are following: North America is behind in this, as in many
>other profitable high tech development areas that require large long
>term investments to take over the market.

I live in Europe, and I see Windows everywhere - never Linux.

>>If you think it is stupid to wonder whether SCO have a case, frankly I
>>don't know - I don't concern myself with Linux issues, so I haven't
>>looked at the claims and counterclaims - but it is certainly stupid to
>>assume that they must lose because they are suing someone with deep
>>pockets. Normally it is those with deep pockets who get sued for money,
>>others are sued only as exemplars.
>
>The US government settled with IBM after a decade.
>It would not surprise me if IBM was able to prove its counterclaims
>against SCO, due to the requirements of the above settlement, and SCO
>was unable to prove its claims against IBM, resulting in SCO either
>going bust, or its assets being given to IBM as compensation.

Who knows?

>>Interestingly, the poster to whom I replied was proposing illegal
>>software as one of the big advantages of the open source movement.
>
>Never saw any mention of illegal software by you or any other poster,
>unless the post did not make it to my server. To which proposal are
>you referring?

<<BEGIN QUOTE>
>In article <BBE847F396682252EB@10.0.1.2>,
slavins@hearsay.demon.co.uk@localhost (Simon Slavin) wrote:
>>Agreed. Without Open Source and other freeware, the only programs
>>which got written were those which were (a) likely to show a profit
>>and (b) didn't leave the authors open to being sued. When programs
>>can be written with no thought of profit, and by cooperation among
>>people in many different legal jurisdictions, a great deal more
>>programs are going to be written.
<END QUOTE>

>>Presumably he would approve if Linux did indeed rip off source from all
>>and sundry. But it wouldn't do serious users much good if that turned
>>out to be the case...
>
>SGI for one has scanned its Linux code base and found four
>questionable lines of code, which *may* have been taken from or based
>on code acquired by SCO, and which has been replaced.

"its" Linux code base? Does that mean the entire Linux OS, or just one
bit that SGI wrote?

>>Linux on the desktop doesn't appear to be good enough and I doubt that a
>>good enough variant would be free. A serious threat might cause the
>>price of Windows to drop too. As for MS 'raping' the market, I believe
>>its installallation programs are scrupulous about honouring a 'no'
>>request.
>
>Look outside the US for proof that Linux is good enough.

See above - I live in Europe. Contrary to what people are
apparently telling you over there in California, Windows is
overwhelmingly dominant in Europe too.

- Gerry Quinn

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