Re: The randomfunction

From: Scott Wilber (swilber_at_comscire.com)
Date: 12/15/03

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    Date: 14 Dec 2003 17:15:52 -0800

    Programmer Dude <Chris@Sonnack.com> wrote in message news:<3FD0D5FD.76C2CD88@Sonnack.com>...
    > Espen Amundsen wrote:
    >
    > > The idea that we can in large group inflict on randomgenerators is
    > > the same that we can move things with the force of mind.
    >
    > There is a significant difference between the amount of energy
    > required for a single mind to move a material object and that
    > required for a union of all minds to somehow affect the balance
    > of random noise in the local fabric.

    We can certainly calculate the amount of energy needed to move a
    particular physical object under defined conditions using known
    physical laws. If we hypothesize that we are moving the object by
    mind power or telekinesis, we must also acknowledge that the known
    laws of physics are not complete or predictive in this case. We don't
    know and can't predict the amount of energy, or even if this is a
    properly stated question.

    Also, what do you suppose is the amount of energy required to collapse
    a quantum wave function at a selected one of two single-photon
    detectors, detecting a photon "split" with exactly 50% probability for
    either detector?
    This is a way of saying how much energy does it take to influence a
    quantum random number generator in a particular direction. Classical
    physics doesn't have any answer. Even quantum physics could not give
    a real, quantitative answer.

    Just a few thoughts for discussion.

    Scott Wilber
    >
    > Both may turn out to be absurd; both may turn out to be the Real
    > Goods,... or any combination inbetween.
    >

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