Re: Do something about Outsourcing: Support Team America PAC [OT]

From: Kamal R. Prasad (kamalp_at_acm.org)
Date: 05/12/04 

Date: 12 May 2004 07:27:42 -0700

bill-godfrey@sunny-coventry.invalid (Bill Godfrey) wrote in message news:<20040511073101.430$4p@newsreader.com>...
> air7931@yahoo.com (take action) wrote:
> > "I'd have thought anyone worried about outsourcing would
> > be in favour of immigration."
>
> > That makes no sense! LOL! Unless you want to depress wages even more
> > for American citizens. Importing cheap immigrant labor to depress
> > wages is just as bad as outsoucing.
>
> The problem of offshoring is that people with a lower cost of living can
> undercut the westerners. (Isn't it?)
>
That wouldn't exactly be under-cutting.

> With more open immigration, those Indians may have felt inclined to move to
> the west. Then, they would be on a "level playing field", having to pay the
Depends on whether the company paying for the services would rather
get it done overseas than in the US. Many companies in a rush to save
money, told their H1B workers/Indians -that they have an option to
relocate to the Indian office or to get laid off.[Intel is one of
those companies that moved teams to their Blore office]. The Indians
in USA might have liked the pay and living standards -but they had no
other option but to comply.
> same rent/mortgage and having to buy the same food.
>
 I don't need to save as much for retirement [assuming I live that
long] as americans do. Many Indians opt for early retirement and
return to India for good because their savings last longer in India.

> Unless you are opposed to *both* immigration and offshoring. Those
> programmers who live abroad should just take up needlework then?
>

Its basically that the US is a thinly populated country. Tapping
overseas labour markets gives employers better choices. If the
protaganists want the field of comp. sc to themselves -they are in
Alice's wonderland. Instead, they may want govts to cooperate in
setting uniform labour rates/overheads etc..

> Is this is the case, would you also like to see a ban on new graduates
> taking work as well?
>
> Bill, englander.

That would reduce some more competition for those don't want to take
to mgmt

regards
-kamal