Re: Offshore Outsourcing

From: Randy Howard (randyhoward_at_FOOverizonBAR.net)
Date: 05/22/04 

Date: Sat, 22 May 2004 19:29:10 GMT

In article <f5dda427.0405211419.4d09ce43@posting.google.com>, spinoza1111
@yahoo.com says...
> Thanks for the anecdote from hell. Your point being? Those who do evil
> must expect evil in return...

Exactly. Those who sit by and let such things happen without a response
are merely cowards and accessories to future criminal acts.

> > > > > > Certainly none as vile as what's come out
> > > >
> > > > What's vile is your attempting to actually claim recent events are *worse*.
> > >
> > > I did not make that claim. I said they were crimes.
> >
> > No, you *DID* make that claim. Read your own quoted text above. Your
> > senility is showing again.
> >
> Apart from the Shoah, the treatment of detainees in previous wars on
> the level of individual cases is "none as vile", because contemporary
> American culture adds sexual humiliation to a pre-existing laundry
> list of savagery. The number or scale does not make individual acts
> more or less vile.

Then what does? You actually think that a college prank in which
nobody experiences any physical harm whatsoever is worth than
torture, beheadings, rape, electrocution, etc.?

> Wake up, ***, to the nightmare of childhood."

What is becoming more and more obvious is that you had a bad childhood
and will take up for anyone that you can find a way to identify with,
even a terrorist.

> In like fashion, the treatment of prisoners at Abu Ghraib accumulates
> the pre-existing violence that is used in American workplaces

Yes, there is oh so much violence in the American workplace. Are you
really such a pantywaist that you can't endure being expected to have
some competence on the job?

> You actually seem to believe that the choice, here in this
> ng, is to be master or slave when usenet was designed, in part
> deliberately, to escape this choice.

You are amazingly capable of assigning ridiculous motives to others. If
you want to discuss sociology topics, there are at least 50 different
newsgroups that are more on-topic than this one for that. If you really
want to discuss corporate accountability, there is at least one newsgroup
specifically for that. If you want to discuss philosophy, there are at
least 30 newsgroups for that. I fully endorse your right to participate
in any and all of them with on-topic posts. It has *nothing* to do with
slavery or the like. It has everything to do with you being to stubborn,
stupid, or both to understand that this newsgroup has nothing to do with
any of them.

> > I refuse to entertain the notion that terrorists being mistreated, in what
> > would be considered hilarious in a teenage comedy like "Animal House", as
> > victims.
> >
> Yeah, "Animal House", which resulted in a generation of frathouse
> abuse and some deaths through hazing

People are responsible for their own actions. They are not to be excused
because someone can claim a piece of film influenced their behavior.

> and created the culture of Columbine High School (in which the victims fought
> back)

They could not reasonably fight back, because our school systems have managed
to disarm everyone inside but the criminals. Meanwhile, the police stood
outside until after the shooting stopped so they wouldn't get hurt.

> I am certain you, or your spiritual kin, find black folks struggling for breath
> at the end of a rope fucking hilarious.

Very nice. Who was the hypocrite that insisted on polite discourse and not
libeling people in newsgroups?

> > What families? They treat their wives worse than most people treat a snake
> > found in the garden.
> >
> Have you stopped beating the little lady yet?

Is you quote above an example of the "your response is the usual juvenile
crap" variety you mentioned in a recent post, Captain Hypocrisy?
  
> > Not being a terrorist, but an honest US citizen, I'm not remotely worried
> > about it. I prefer to let the UFO crowd worry about this type of thing
> > happening to them if they take off the aluminum foil helmets.
> >
> OK, jerk face. But I advise you not to travel, even to Canada.

Is this another example of "your response is the usual juvenile crap" you
mentioned previously? "Jerk face", should anyone take you seriously, or
pause to give weight to your "advice"? I dare say no.

> > If you feel these people are being
> > mistreated so badly, why don't you go help them fight us? Or at least
> > donate to the "Terrorist Legal Defense Fund" or something.
> >
> Because I don't choose to join the gyre of violence that was created.

No, you prefer to sit on your backside and snipe from your keyboard like
the typical old reprobate with nothing left to live for.

> > Today I mentor young men and women interested in high-tech careers, and am
> > currently also involved with a program to spin up a technology incubator
> > program in small towns with little or no high-tech industry by bringing start-
> > up high tech companies to those areas rather than just sitting and watching
> > people all move "to the big city" and vaporizing rural areas economically.
>
> Rotsa ruck. Nobody is interested in what overpaid rubes can do in
> America anymore.

Who is overpaid, other than the obvious example, yourself?

> Any number of jerkwater towns have "invested" in
> technology when they would have done better using the money for school
> programs in art, dance and (in your case) anger management.

These investments are in education, wherein high school and local community
college students are interning with high tech companies to learn skills that
will help them later in life if they pursue a career in technology.

I'm sure it's far easier to sit around whining than it is to get off your
ass and actually do something useful. However, seeing your "accomplishments"
to date, I suspect we are all better off if you continue on your current
course until your clock runs out. 

-- 
Randy Howard                
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"I admit that it is probably too much work ... to wade through 
 my prose to get to anything useful."  -- Edward G. Nilges