Re: Importance of Computer Science degree?

From: Gerry Quinn (gerryq_at_DELETETHISindigo.ie)
Date: 10/02/04


Date: Sat, 2 Oct 2004 12:17:57 +0100

In article <MPG.1bc5fdd31f30f9c5989abd@news.verizon.net>,
randyhoward@FOOverizonBAR.net says...
> In article <MPG.1bc5ecddfddbceb79899bf@news.indigo.ie>,
> gerryq@DELETETHISindigo.ie says...

> > The pathetic kerfuffle about MS daring to give programmers an option in
> > Visual J++ to use Windows-specific code says more about the problems of
> > Java than about the evil of Bill Gates.
>
> Actually, it says more about Microsoft not being willing to honor legal
> agreements they make. If they wanted to do such, they should have
> negotiated to do it. However, even if they had the legal footing, it's
> still a terrible idea to take a language designed for portability and
> shoehorn a bunch of platform dependent crap on top of it. We all know
> why it was done, and it was not for altruistic reasons. Portable
> languages scare MS marketing types badly, hence the rash of new ones
> they've come out with in recent years.

They produce portable languages, therefore they are scared of portable
languages? Does that mean they were originally scared of operating
systems, so they produced DOS and Windows, then got scared of office
software, so they produced MS Office?

As for 'shoehorning' stuff onto Java, nothing was shoehorned. AFAIK
programmers got the option to use MS extensions or not, as they saw fit.
They got to choose between portable apps that looked like typical Java
stuff, or pretty apps that ran only on Windows. Choice is bad now?

> Obviously the hope is that by giving a lot of hand-holding features
> to journeyman programmers they can buy market share and guarantee
> applications will run on Windows at least better, if not not

Yes, producing better languages that are easier to code in is all part
of their eevill plan. What a shame the world is not full of virtuous
masochists who like to make work for themselves!

- Gerry Quinn

> exclusively. I sort of shocked that they haven't purchased QT from
> Trolltech so that they can screw it up before any more major apps
> start using it to achieve true cross-platform GUI features without
> the performance drawbacks of Java.



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