Re: Free-trade and Offshoring of jobs argument

From: Oliver Costich (olc-caNOSPAM_at_cox.net)
Date: 10/30/04 

Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 21:23:37 -0400

On Fri, 29 Oct 2004 10:19:09 -0400, alexy <nospam@asbry.net> wrote:

>Tiny Human Ferret <ixnayamspay_klaatu@earthops.net> wrote:
>
>
>>Basically you cannot entirely remove the underground economy, nor would
>>one want to, the costs are too high in terms of social disruption. Even
>>if you succeeded in getting all of the illegals removed, all you've done
>>is create a situation where local teenagers can't cut your lawn because
>>of all of the regulation.
>Exactomundo. So you agree with the subcommittee that you can't
>completely eliminate all of the illegal aliens without a police state.

All isn't the goal. How about most or just lots. Enforcing laws
against hiring them would make quite a dent. It shouldn't be too hard
to get started with the peole on national TV that admit hiring them.

>>
>>However, there can be, and should be, more checking of authorization in
>>terms of easily-verified documentation as a pre-requisite to employment
>>in the trades that "traditionally" attract illegals. This would include
>>fast-food, any major corporate employment in meat processing, etc. This
>>alone would make an industry segment presently employing probably one ro
>>two million illegals.
>>
>>The same sort of document checking should be required when applying for
>>a loan, for a federally-insured mortgage, a federally-insured bank
>>account, on any encounter whatsoever with State and local governments, etc.
>>
>>Will this have the effect of severely marginalizing the illegals?
>>Certainly: and that's the idea. Since they are coming to America --
>>illegally dontcha know -- because it's an immense and highly-profitable
>>step up from life in their homelands, make it less of a step up, and
>>more of a case of swapping one hellhole for another, one where not
>>everybody speaks their language.
>>
>>Of course, there has to be some sort of commensurate compensation in
>>making the process and experience of Legal immigration to be much less
>>troublesome and time-consuming.
>>
>>Right now, the rewards are all stacked in favor of sneaking across the
>>border and then finding yourself "on Easy Street". It's simply time to
>>adjust the balances of reward and effort to deter illegal immigration
>>and to reward doing things the right way, legally.

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