Re: Difference between VC++ and UNIX

On Thu, 22 Jun 2006 14:58:22 -0500, mschaef@xxxxxxxxxxx (MSCHAEF.COM)
wrote:

In article <torl92p7dra4mrb833c1onffhj0s94fjdf@xxxxxxx>,
Al Balmer <alremovebalmerthis@xxxxxxx> wrote:
..
Some non-Microsoft tools are even nicer. For example, Visual Slickedit
will do all that you mention and more, for many more languages, is
cheaper than MSVC++,

Maybe not the cheaper part. Visual SlickEdit for Windows is $284 and
doesn't seem to include a compiler.

It uses whatever compiler you have, in whatever language you like. GCC
seems to be the most popular.

VisualStudio Express is free, and
it does. (Even for commercial use)

What is Visual Studio Express? Visual Studio Professional lists at
over $800, and runs on only one platform, but does support more than
one language.

and is available on many platforms. I have it for
Windows, HP-UX, and Linux.

Multiplatform is $799. That's enough money to buy a Windows box just
to run that free copy of Visual Studio.

It's not enough to buy a Windows box, a Linux box, an HP-UX box, and
pay Microsoft to port their product to those platforms. (What I'm
trying to say is that's a silly comparison.)

I know it's not the same, particularly
given how much developer time can cost, but still...

BTW, how would you compare SlickEdit to something like Gnu Emacs or
X Emacs (or gvim)? I've always been a little suprised that with the high
quality of free text editors, there has been much of a market for
for-fee editors, but I don't have much experience with the for fee
tools.

In comparison, most of the free multiplatform editors I've tried are
primitive. Some of them can be made less primitive with some effort
put into customization and learning how to use it. One free
multi-platform editor with a very good feature set is Jedit, but the
resource requirements are fairly stiff. It's impractical to run on my
old HP R-380 box, for example.

Some differences are strictly personal - I hate vi's modes, for
example.

And when I'm using it on *nix, all those great command-line tools are
a click away - or I can add them to the editor's repertoire.

What am I missing? Doesn't cygwin do that for Windows? Seems to work
for me, for whatever that's worth.

Does Visual Studio run in a Cygwin bash box? I suppose it would -
Slickedit does, and that gives access to a lot of the unix type
goodies on Windows. How customizable is Visual Studio, when it comes
to adding commands, menus, etc?

--
Al Balmer
Sun City, AZ
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