ba.hons wrote:

No problem, sorry it my fault bit of a silly thing really not mentioning i
was printing to a printer.

I never thought it was going to be this difficult !

anyone else any ideas i would love to hear them,

I recently posted a link to a DOC file containing general (shotgun)
techniques. Did it help?

One of them was to use Notepad for experimentation. Can Notepad print your
string? I suppose one could then analyze what Notepad is doing...