Re: Advice to adult victims of cyberbullying
- From: spinoza1111 <spinoza1111@xxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2008 09:54:12 -0800 (PST)
On Jan 4, 7:27 am, moi <r...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Thu, 03 Jan 2008 02:52:52 -0800, spinoza1111 wrote:
I'm going to repost this from my blog here.
Don't let the bullies continue to destroy this newsgroup. Say nice
things about other people: praise their work. When you see a person
being bullied in this newsgroup, stand up for him.
No, I won't.
too many Christians are bullies: we don't need no son of G-d, we need a
(Matt. 5.22). Note that Christ doesn't say you shouldn't criticise
behavior or affections. He is saying that if you judge a person
globally, you are playing G-d, and this is what constitutes bullying and
stalking: the obsessive and addictive judging of a person globally.
Strange formulas. (BTW: christ does not exist!)
Either you start to stay on topic, or you seek help.
You can speak of love while enabling hate.
Lucid technical discussion doesn't get a chance in this forum because
of thread vandalism based on personalities. Therefore, Job One and
the main topic has to be ending the bullying that goes on here, and
getting Heathfield to apologize and to leave.
The bullying engaged in by Heathfield and Howard happens to be off-
topic, because people's opinions about other people's competence are
not a proper topic for this newsgroup.
Nothing is accomplished by assaulting Schildt or Nilges. No new
knowledge is created, in part because a person's errors in C++ are in
no way a predictor of how he would do in another language, or in a
world not foolishly attempting to standardize a language which was
designed by Stroustrup to allow idiomatic constructions.
A far more useful topic would be whether given the *wildgewordene
kleinburger*, or out of control petty bourgeois, behavior of so many
here would be whether programming is even a profession, or simply a
catchbasin for the deskilled and passive lower middle class, something
that end users often do better anyway.
Shibboleths such as "don't use void main() because the other kids will
laugh at you", which are even retailed by so distinguished a person as
Stroustrup, have long replaced the insight that was shown in the Algol
60 report, insight that was disregarded by arrogant American
greedheads...who imposed the infantile disorder of Fortran on a
generation of mission critical systems, with the result that the SAGE
air defense system never worked. I can only contrast what my father
had to know as a physician, or what I have to learn as a teacher, with
the crotchety shibboleths bruited about the computing world.
I'm talking about bullying, and I have noticed as a consultant and
programmer over thirty years that it has been steadily growing as a
programming phenomenon precisely as the earliest generation of honest,
competent programmers dies off, and raging children of the upper
middle class slide down the social scale into jobs they hate, because
they and their self-appointed mentors don't cultivate a body of
knowledge, only a body of tics and hatreds.
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