Re: "Foreign" programmers' thoughts on American politics?

On Nov 4, 6:44 pm, Nick Keighley <nick_keighley_nos...@xxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
On 4 Nov, 06:40, James Dow Allen <jdallen2...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

I don't want to keep beating a dead off-topic horse,
BUT ....

On Nov 3, 5:48 pm, Nick Keighley <nick_keighley_nos...@xxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

On 3 Nov, 09:30, James Dow Allen <jdallen2...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
I'm with Mr Thomasson on this one. No one should encourage
illegal voting.

Let's please distinguish pertinent thinking from vacuous
emotional appeals.  Of course "illegal voting is bad."
So are earthquakes, scorpions and undercooked pork.  Do you
want to recite truisms in a vacuum, or derive useful
conclusions about American politics?

note you ask for the opinions of foreign (ie. non-US)
programmers. This means there is going to be a certain
amount of ignorance. And to be honest no I don't
want derive useful conclusions about american politics.
If your elections are being rigged then fix 'em. I can't.

As Mr. Nilges pointed out, illegal voting, *quantitatively*
in the U.S.A., is *NOT* a problem!
The problem is cynical Republicans who pretend concern
about illegal votes, when their real objective is to
reject *legal* but pro-Democrat registrations.
You may (ignorantly) disbelieve this fact, but at least
keep track of the topic under debate.

No one is encouraging illegal voting.  (In fact, as pointed
out at least twice in this thread, Acorn is specifically
trying to flag improper registrations, but is
LEGALLY OBLIGATED to file them anyway.
Do you need to read this in a larger font?)

so are they fileing 'em? If so what are you complaining about
and if not then get them presecuted. I don't care.

He's complaining because the Republicans are preparing to contest Ohio
and delay McCain's concession, thereby deliberately throwing the USA
into turmoil and possibly a civil war based on race.

Today's editorial in the New York Times, "So Little Time, So Much
Damage" documents how the Bush administration, in the hands of the war
criminal and felon Cheney, is passing countless regulations to destroy
as much as possible of the US government. These bastards won't stop at
challenging a mere election, and they will use their frivolous
lawsuits against Acorn as evidence. They are trying to create the
impression that the N*rs messed the election up and their behavior
will cause civil unrest. THEY DON'T CARE. They are bullies from whom
the members of the newsgroup have been taking their cue since this
newsgroup was created around the time when Reagan made a secret deal
with Iran to delay the release of American hostages.

Mr. Thomasson's position suggests that he is totally unaware
of facts such as the following, shown [at]

<snip>

Clever of you to snip my paragraph, which gives startling evidence
of Republican cheating.

as I said I don't care. Every election since the 1st town mayor
of babylon has been fixed to some extent. Raise a petition. Complain
to the authorities. Whatever. I care just as much (and as little)
about vote rigging in Zimbabwe or India as I do about America.

<snip>

America's system of two centrist parties worked well
for many years, but any good-spirited American not sickened
by the Republican Party of Karl Rove, *** Cheney, and
Ken Starr is, simply put, grossly underinformed.

I'm no fan of GB's government, but isn't there an ever so
slight tinge of partisanship here?

I'm curious.  As a "foreigner" do you have a clue what you're
talking about?

no of course not. It's like listening to a recently divorced
person. Whilst sympathetic you have a vague feeling it might
not *all* be one sided.

Or did you write the above knowing nothing
about Karl Rove?  

the name rings a some sort of bell

<snip>

I'm sure you're very intelligent Mr. Keighley.

<snip do some research>

slight over-snip there. Do you research the ins and outs
of UK politics? 

<snip>

as a kinfness to comp.lang.programming I'll drop this now
(fun tho it is!)

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Nick Keighley

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