Re: Cardinality of Set of Computable Numbers?

From: James Waldby (j-waldby_at_pat7.com)
Date: 12/26/03


Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2003 19:26:31 -0600

Lee Rudolph wrote:
> "Russell Easterly" <logiclab@comcast.net> writes:
...
> >I have read that the set of computable numbers is countable.
> >
> >Let S be the set of all computable numbers
> >and assume S is countable.
> >
> >Since S is countable there is a function, f(),
> >that maps S to the natural numbers.
> >Using f() to order S, define a diagonal number, d.
> >d is a computable number not in S.
>
> To correctly conclude that "d is a computable number not in S"
> by "Using f()", you would have to know that f is a computable
> function (in, essentially, whatever sense you are using
> "computable" in the phrase "computable numbers").
>
> >Therefore,
> either
> >S can't be the set of computable numbers
> or f isn't computable. Correct conclusion: no such f is
> computable.

I don't agree that that is the problem per se. What is wrong
is that d is not well-defined, ie, not shown to exist. It is
not good enough to merely say "define a diagonal number, d".
If d is based on, for example, digit j of f(j), the process
will fail by f(j) having fewer than j digits, which is the case
for most computable numbers, expressed in any base.
-jiw



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