Re: Panu Raatikainen's review of two of Chaitin's books.
From: George Cox (george_coxANTI_at_SPAMbtinternet.com.invalid)
Date: 05/16/04
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Date: Sun, 16 May 2004 16:22:53 +0000 (UTC)
Eray Ozkural exa wrote:
>
> George Cox <george_coxANTI@SPAMbtinternet.com.invalid> wrote in message news:<40A26841.366E58D4@SPAMbtinternet.com.invalid>...
> > Eray Ozkural exa wrote:
> > >
> > > Hello there,
> > >
> > > I have come across this strange review by a certain philosopher, and
> > > mere philosopher I must add, of Chaitin's work:
> > > http://www.ams.org/notices/200109/rev-panu.pdf
> >
> > That he is a philosopher (even a "mere" one) doesn't make him
> > unqualified to review Chaitin's work.
>
> I think it does for the same reason that mere biologists are not
> qualified to review my work in parallel computing,
If a "mere" biologist knew a lot about parallel computing (and your work
in particular) then he would be so qualified.
> for instance... You
> might think that philosophy (of mathematics) is closer to mathematics
> than biology is to computer science, but I think you'd be a little
> misdirected. Wittgenstein is said to have a "philosophy" of
> mathematics, yet his philosophy, in my opinion, is just postmodernist
> gibberish [No, nothing is rule-based, I'm a linguistic rebel, sure I'm
> a language-bot...]. What makes you think Wittgenstein was qualified to
> say anything about mathematics?
I never said he was. But just because you don't like Wittgenstein's
philosophy doesn't mean that Raatikainen is unqualified to write about
Chaitin's work.
>
> It is true that the most important philosophers of mathematics were
> mathematicians, and I will suggest the readership that one who does
> not have sufficiently advanced formal education in mathematics,
> especially in the subjects he wishes to study (be it ZF set theory or
> Kolmogorov complexity!), either by himself or at academy, should
> either stay away from the subject or educate himself in the relevant
> technical matters.
>
> I give great importance to what Godel said about philosophy of
> mathematics not because he did philosophy, but because he did
> philosophy as a mathematician.
>
> Furthermore, I think the review spells of the reviewer's ignorance,
Now you get to the point--if _you_ are qualified to review the review,
then do so without insulting it's author.
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