Re: Troll-confusion still rife [was: What is the Result from Invoking this Halt Function?]

From: peter_douglass (baisly_at_gis.net)
Date: 08/22/04 

Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2004 01:01:21 GMT

">parr(*>" <LauryKing@BTInternetnospam.com> wrote in message
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> "Peter Olcott" <olcott@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message

> | "peter_douglass" <baisly@gis.net> wrote

> | > Can you name one math guy who has a hangup
> | > that requires you to write "each and every element of
> | > the universal set of Turing Machines" each and every
> | > time in the universal set of times that you write
> | > this, instead of "for all Turing Machines"?

> | One of them already responded to this. They disagree
> | with you on this point.

> Oh dear, Peter, that wasn't a math guy, that was another Troll. A
> Troll who is trolling Peter the Troll. How confused you must be that
> you cant recognise your own kith and kin.

Out of curiosity, I did some research on the etymology of "universal set of"

http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&scoring=d&q=%22universal+set+of%22+group%3Asci.logic&btnG=Search&meta=group%3Dsci.logic

Interesting results:

Olcott:
   "universal set of Turing Machines"
   "universal set of possibilities"
   "universal set of all knowledge"
   "universal set of all possible programs"
   "universal set of programs"
   "universal set of theses mechanisms"
   "universal set of [WillHalt() | Halt() ] functions"
   "universal set of individual entities"
   "universal set of individual persons"
   "universal set of individuals"
   "universal set of questions"

Charlie-Boo:
   "universal set of the natural numbers"
   "universal set of values"

Archimedes Plutonium:
   "universal set of adics"

George Greene (within quotes):
   "universal set (of sentences)"

Peter Coresellis:
   "The universal set of NF is really only the set of sets..."

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Analysis:

Peter Coresellis's usage was appropriate, and George Greene's usage was
within quotes. So we are left with only three individuals who have
used the term "universal set of" in sci.logic. These also appear to be the
earliest occurences on sci.logic.

We investigated whether there was any relationship between the
three remaining users of the phrase "universal set of" -- Peter Olcott,
Charlie-Boo and Archimedes Plutonium. We note that
all three have O, L, and C in their names.

Grant applications are being prepared for further research in this
area.

--PeterD

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