Re: Largest provable BB(N)?

From: Dennis Ritchie (dmr_at_bell-labs.com)
Date: 10/29/04

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    "Daniel A. Jimenez" <djimenez@cs.utexas.edu> wrote in message news:clrj25$n2g$1@keel.cs.utexas.edu...
     ... [first quoting]

    > > ....what is the highest N for which all
    > >N-state Turing machines can be identified as halting/non-halting?
    > >
    > >Or to be more exact: I'm sure the exact N isn't known, so what's the
    > >best guess, that people who know more mathematics than I do, would
    > >give for what sort of figure it's likely to be?
    >
    > It will depend on how many symbols the Turing machine can use. An upper
    > bound for N will be whatever the current smallest universal Turing
    > machine is. Marvin Minsky came up with a 4-symbol, 7-state universal
    > Turing machine; I don't know what the current smallest UTM is.

    Shannon showed how to convert any TM into a 2-state TM.
    As I recall there is only a polynomial growth in the symbol
    set during the encoding. So N=2. I don't know whether
    Minsky's |S|*|N| product has been improved.

        Dennis


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