Re: Turing Machines and Physical Computation

From: Eray Ozkural exa (examachine_at_gmail.com)
Date: 12/01/04 

Date: 30 Nov 2004 18:50:42 -0800

Neil W Rickert <rickert+nn@cs.niu.edu> wrote in message news:<coinhe$knv$1@usenet.cso.niu.edu>...
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> examachine@gmail.com (Eray Ozkural exa) writes:
> >Neil W Rickert <rickert+nn@cs.niu.edu> wrote in message news:<coe8th$tdu$1@usenet.cso.niu.edu>...
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> >> Computation is the manipulation of representations.
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> >I am not sure if that's a good description.
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> >This formal symbol manipulation idea got some otherwise ambitious
> >philosophers like Brian Cantwell Smith and gang quite confused.
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> >Computers can work on representations, that's true. But it is not
> >necessary that what is being manipulated is "representation".
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> It can be an abstract representation -- that is, one that doesn't
> actually represent anything.
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> The received view of AI is something like:
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> A system of sensors that generates representation in some fixed
> manner.
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> A manipulation or transformation of these input representation into
> output representations.
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> A system of effectors that, in fixed way, generates physical
> actions (behaviors) from the output representations.

We were talking about computation in general, not what perception or
action in the world requires.

Regards, 

--
Eray Ozkural

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