Re: Cerberus and Quine

examachine_at_gmail.com
Date: 02/27/05

  • Next message: betty: "Please need help on promise problems"
    Date: 27 Feb 2005 04:22:13 -0800
    
    

    examachine@gmail.com wrote:
    >
    > I agree with this. Nice exposition.
    >
    > I think that was more or less what I was saying about "partial
    > oracles".
    >
    > You just do not expect to find *any* oracles to the halting problem.
    > That happens only in movies like the Matrix. So, what you have
    instead
    > is partial oracles, computers that know only a finite bit of
    > information about the halting problem!
    >
    > What I mean is that, if we read Quine in the sense of modern
    complexity
    > theory and AI theory (MDL, MML, AIT) then it makes a whole lot of
    > sense, and I absolutely agree that it has much import.
    >
    > The argument that *everything* on earth is *necessarily* dependent on
    > *everything* else is a CREATIONIST argument, which is precisely how
    we
    > can understand Quine's argument. If everything CRUCIALLY depended on
    > everything, then NO mechanism could explan how this web of
    dependencies
    > could come into existence. But this is not the case, everything is
    > mechanical, the dependencies are only partial, everything is
    reducible
    > to mechanics, and all of it is a matter of evolution.

    This is a bit jumbled up. I mean that: Quine's non-reductionism must be
    taken with a grain of salt. In modern theory, you can have mild
    non-reductionism, instead of a radical non-reductionism that is in fact
    a creationist argument. It leaves no room for evolution, it seems!

    Regards,

    --
    Eray
    

  • Next message: betty: "Please need help on promise problems"

    Relevant Pages

    • Re: Cerberus and Quine
      ... > oracles". ... > mechanical, the dependencies are only partial, everything is ... and all of it is a matter of evolution. ... non-reductionism, instead of a radical non-reductionism that is in fact ...
      (sci.math)
    • Re: Cerberus and Quine
      ... > oracles". ... > mechanical, the dependencies are only partial, everything is ... and all of it is a matter of evolution. ... non-reductionism, instead of a radical non-reductionism that is in fact ...
      (sci.logic)
    • Re: Cerberus and Quine
      ... > oracles". ... > mechanical, the dependencies are only partial, everything is ... and all of it is a matter of evolution. ... non-reductionism, instead of a radical non-reductionism that is in fact ...
      (sci.physics)