Re: Can anyone explain this quote?



Rick Decker wrote:
> Ben Rudiak-Gould wrote:
> > Claudio Grondi wrote:
> >
> >> Consider such a system. Does it know that it knows the full information
> >> about itself? Not yet? No problem, it can be added to it. Does the system
> >> now know, that it was added to it the knowledge, that it knows the full
> >> information about itself? Not yet? No problem, it can be added to it ...
> >>
> >> In my eyes there is a huge amount of hints towards believing, that the
> >> quote
> >> is right.
> >
> >
> > No, it's possible to avoid the infinite regress by using data
> > compression techniques. That's what Goedel did.
> >
> Not to mention that the code for building a brain is far smaller
> than the complexity of the finished product. A biological
> version of data compression, if you will.

Of course it may be possible for us to understand this code.

Moreso, science is not limited by the capacity of a single brain,
thus the cognitive closure arguments are easily defeated. As
a matter of fact, we could say it may not have been possible
for Einstein to have found everything about physics by himself.
So, why should the poor neuroscientist/molecular biologist
have to do that himself?

However, I think Ben Rudiak-Gould's comments do not make
much sense to me. I wonder what Goedel avoided, did he
become a saint, was he able to ascend us mere machines?

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Eray

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