Re: Email address establishedness test



And the highest PageRank among these search results.


On Dec 19, 1:36 am, "Booted Cat" <yaoziy...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
At the very least, a simple implementation would be automatically
querying Google for the email address in question and see if the number
of search results is greater than a certain value.

On Dec 18, 11:59 pm, Bill Cole <b...@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

In article <1166445177.065707.47...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
"Booted Cat" <yaoziy...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

To prevent spam, a user could choose to only accept messages from
"established email addresses". What is an established email address? If
the address is listed on a famous company/organization/institution's
"People" page, or if the address is listed on the "Contact Me" page of
a personal home page / social network member page that is linked by
several other people's home pages, or if there exists a path from YOUR
home page / social network member page to this person's page, it is
established.If that were to be applied, it would require some sort of address
certifying authority that had broad recognition as well as a universally
used digital signature system for email. If either of those existed, the
nature of spam would be radically different and probably a great deal
lower in volume.

We should make a web service that automatically tests a given email
address' establishness. Absent some indication that anyone else agrees with your idea, you
should avoid using "we" where "I" is more rational. Why you think a "web
service" is a suitable approach for mail application is not clear, but
I'm sure you have your reasons which you will explain when you release
your working example of such a service that can be used by an assortment
of common MTA's and/or MUA's

As you design your service and write your code, keep in mind that a lot
of perfectly valid mail flows today to and from addresses that are not
published on any web page and whose owners have no reason to publish
them on any web page. For example, I have been posting to Usenet for
over a decade with the same perfectly valid email address, but I don't
think it is on any web page in a readily accessible format, except
perhaps for random mailing list and Usenet archives. Unless people
actually start rejecting my mail because of that, I won't be putting up
a page to fit into someone else's idea of how to make an address
published. As a mail admin, I would not consider using your system until
I see a lot of other people making the leap first (including at least 3
of AOL, Microsoft, Google, Earthlink, Outblaze, Yahoo, and Comcast) and
confirming that 99.9%+ of the legitimate mail my systems receive would
be let through.

Good luck with your work. It looks like a huge task to me.

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