Re: Can Computers Have Incomputable Concepts?



On Jun 23, 9:26 pm, A.L. <f...@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Sat, 23 Jun 2007 11:43:38 -0700, LauLuna <laureanol...@xxxxxxxx>
wrote:



But this is not the point. I'm not claiming here that there is
something humans can do and computers can't. I'm just proposing a
difficulty of quite another type.

Unless you define what it means "computer has a concept", everything
what you write is just a nonsense jumble-mumble.

A.L.

That is exactly why I'm asking for help. I don't know what it means
for a computer to have a concept. I'm suggesting to assume we are
computers and all possible human cognitive behavior is computation.
Then, since we undoubtedly have the concept of arithmetical truth,
there are computers that have that concept. But the concept is
incomputable; how is this possible?

In logical terms, let's say we can have a concept C in an extensional
way or only in an intensional way. In the latter case we are not
always able to recognize whether an object falls under C or doesn't
even if C is definite and well-defined.

So, I'm asking: how could computers have concepts in just an
intensional way?


.



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