Re: Peano's Axioms are Inconsistent
- From: RussellE <reasterly@xxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sat, 8 Aug 2009 19:59:28 -0700 (PDT)
On Aug 8, 7:02 pm, Ben Bacarisse <ben.use...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
RussellE <reaste...@xxxxxxxxx> writes:
On Aug 8, 6:44 pm, Joshua Cranmer <Pidgeo...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
RussellE wrote:
So, PA plus Axiom of Commutation is inconsistent?
Apparently.
It took me 10 years to figure this out.
It takes a while to get use to.
You do realise that Joshua's "Axiom of Commutation" was a joke? It's
not always clear if you are on the same page.
He was joking about binary operations being commutative?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commutativity
I thought he was using the Axiom of Ambiguity.
You still haven't answered my question.
Is the following statement true in whatever formal system
you want to use? I have never actually seen anyone
prove something in a formal system, so this could
be a first.
1) AxEy T(y)(x) ='1' => ExAy T(y)(x) = '1'
After you are done with that I have another.
Prove the following statement is false:
2) EyAx T(y)(x) = '1' OR ExAy T(y)(x) =/= '1'
I can show, using strictly finite means, statement (2)
is true for BNTM at any step on any tape.
Russell
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