[HIBERNATE] [EVALUATION] - Gavin King Censors Hibernate Forum

From: Ilias Lazaridis (ilias_at_lazaridis.com)
Date: 12/27/04

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    followup-to: comp.lang.java.softwaretools

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    nntp access to hibernate devel group:

    news://news.gmane.org/gmane.comp.java.hibernate.devel

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    At first, I ask about an nntp user forum.

    See the arrogant reaction of the team, which ignores user needs (this
    topic was discussed in the past, too):

    [Hibernate] [PROJECT] - Missing nntp user forum
    http://www.mail-archive.com/hibernate-devel%40lists.sourceforge.net/msg04161.html

    Subthread:
    http://www.mail-archive.com/hibernate-devel%40lists.sourceforge.net/msg04200.html

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    Next I evaluate against the fictive product jamStore:

    See again with which arrogance the team rejects my offer to work
    together towards the direction to produce some quickstarts as described
    on the jamStore page [which would allow a 1h quick-start]:

    [PRODUCT] ORM + RDBMS = OODBMS / Evaluation Against Fictive jamStore
    http://www.mail-archive.com/hibernate-devel%40lists.sourceforge.net/msg04180.html

    Subthread:

    SV: [Hibernate] Re: [PRODUCT] ORM + RDBMS = OODBMS / Evaluation Against
    Fictive jamStore

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    See how simple Mr. Gavin King (JBoss) removes a granted right (to post
    on the devel forum):

    [Hibernate] FYI
    http://www.mail-archive.com/hibernate-devel%40lists.sourceforge.net/msg04208.html

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    My response in another thread:

    "
    To Gavin King:
    Removing a person [which writes fully in topic] from a mailinglist is
    censorship.
    http://www.mail-archive.com/hibernate-devel%40lists.sourceforge.net/msg04208.html
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    This here is not your personal playground.
    I ask you friendly to stop removing me from the list.
    "
    source:
    http://www.mail-archive.com/hibernate-devel%40lists.sourceforge.net/msg04209.html

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    The response: A personal Censorship Attack against my person:

    "
    Your mail to 'hibernate-devel' with the subject

         Re: SV: Re: [PRODUCT] ORM + RDBMS = OODBMS / Evaluation Against
    Fictive
      jamStore

    Is being held until the list moderator can review it for approval.

    The reason it is being held:

         Sender is explicitly forbidden

    Either the message will get posted to the list, or you will receive
    notification of the moderator's decision.
    "

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    A weak team lead like Gavin King (Jboss, Hibernate Lead developer) in
    conjunction with a team which ignores
       * user needs
       * user experience
       * users effort
    cannot produce the next generation software systems.

    Evaluation aborted.

    [will continue it if i cannot find another solution]

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    Act against Censorship on Java Forums.

    One day it may hit you.

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