Re: JVM For windows

From: Gregory A. Swarthout (gregorys_at_xmission.com)
Date: 03/08/04 

Date: 8 Mar 2004 11:58:35 -0800

Mark Preston <usenet@mpreston.demon.co.uk> wrote in message news:<c2htin$o2c$1$8300dec7@news.demon.co.uk>...
> Fountain of knowledge wrote:
>
> > Well, thanks Sun Microsystems. Because of the court case against
> > Microsoft, I can no longer download and install the Microsoft Java
> > Virtual Machine for Windows 2000 SP4.
> >
> You can "no longer download" the Microsoft JVM because there NEVER WAS a
> Microsoft JVM - Microsoft broke Java and their "JVM" never was actually
> Java at all.
> >
> > [snip] The Sun JVM is a bigger install, slower and the worst of all,
> > you have to have that pathetic icon in the system
> > tray permanently just to use Java.
> >
> The Sun JRE is much SMALLER (not larger), FASTER (not slower) and you
> can just turn off the Java Console if you don't want the icon in the
> system tray.
> >
> > [snip] My only option now is to install the Sun JVM just to
> > view some websites. Well, I don't fucking want to!
> >
> No it isn't. You can download from Sun, IBM, BEA (Weblogic) and a number
> of other sources, all of which offer a true Java JRE.
> >
> > [snip] I want the smallest download without the
> > clutter. Only MS provided that. The MS download was 5mb. The Sun
> > one is 14mb.
> >
> The Sun provided JRE for Java 1.4.02 is precisely 1.413 Mb.

This is misleading as only the installer is 1.413 Mb. The installer
then has to download up to 14mb more, the size of the offline
installer.

> I make that a whole TEN TIMES SMALLER than the Microsft version.

Check your math. 1.4 Mb vs. 5 Mb does not seem to be a factor of 10.

Greg