Re: Java technology versus .net

From: Mr. x (a_at_b.com)
Date: 10/08/03 

Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2003 04:31:26 +0200

Hi, Daniel.

I have tried in the past using tomcat apache on windows platform, and it had
many problem on working at windows environment.
Finally I have seen the Web-Logic, so it was the easiest and best server I
ever seen that supports Java server side scripts (like JSP).

I think that WebLogic's jsp is not the same as other servers JSP - am I
right ? Is there any common standard for all JSPs at any server ?
I also see the java applets, and it simmiliar to moderm flash (I see that
flash 6.0 has only 7 components : checkbox, combobox, listbox, pushbutton,
radiobutton, scrollbar, scollpane - Is it true, because I don't want a
pretty animation, I want a program that works, and if flash has too few
components, so it is a good reason, why I should use Java Applets instead).

Does hosting companies take much more money in Java platform, than .NET
platform ?
I would like to know about some companies that supports java, and also has
drivers for btrieve and sql-server, please.

Thanks :)

"Daniel" <dhw377@nothing.no.spam.com> wrote in message
news:B3Kgb.61146$a16.52275@lakeread01...
> I would go with Java because you can have more choice. You have choices in
> servlet/JSP container, you have choices in the OS you wish to deploy on.
> .NET is MS's rip-off versio of Java, so if you know .NET, then Java will
not
> be difficult. With .NET you only have IIS. You can obtain FREE servlet/JSP
> containers in Java like Tomcat or JBoss, and you can try many other
vendors
> and see which one you like.
>
> "Mr. x" <a@b.com> wrote in message news:3f834499@news.012.net.il...
> > Thanks ...
> > Though I have written a lot of code in .net, I am still feel as a
newbie.
> > I didn't know that I can use both Flash & Web-Logic, or both flash and
> Java
> > Applets.
> >
> > What did you mean of Java Webstart ? Is it some of java free tools ?
> >
>
> Webstart is pretty cool. Basically, it loads the application on the client
> from a central server, and will always fetch the latest release. If not,
it
> will use the cache in your computer to load it. It can load an application
> on your computer with a click on a link.
>
> > In my program, I should use Flash and not Java Applets (you stated that
> Java
> > Applets are not really good/evil ... - did you really mean that Java
> applet
> > is not good, or I missunderstood your English ?).
>
> Applets are okay but you need to be careful to use them because there are
so
> many different JVMs in machines and they may not all have the latest
> updates. This may cause imcompatibilities. But you should be okay if you
> compile them for an earlier JVM version or if you have a link that users
can
> download the latest JVM.
>
> > I think that web-logic is quite expensive, and well, I don't know it's
> > benefites againts IIS, but still, I think wheter I use JSP or ASPX, and
> > because I am knowing .net better the JSP (well, it was easier to learn
> > .NET), I would preffer IIS, since there isn't any other services except
> IIS
> > for .net technology.
> >
>
> JSP is basically the same as ASP.NET with some slightly different syntax
(if
> you use C#) and different class names. Same concept, though. And the same
> applies to Java. .NET is a rip-off of Java so it will be easy for you to
use
> Java. This is assuming you are using C#.
>
> > In bottom line : I should use Flash, and .NET technology - Am I right ?
> >
> > Right now I am using notepad for writing (and, believe me - I have
written
> a
> > lot), but still debugging is very difficult task - Is Visual Studio .NET
> is
> > good enough to debug all of web-based scripts (.NET - like aspx, asmx,
> css,
> > html, and any script I could imagine), and good enough for supporting
> > scripts in language different than English (like Hebrew) ?
> > I would like to feel what VS.NET is look like, and what benefites it
has,
> > please.
> >
>
> If you went with Java, you could try lots of FREE IDEs like JBuilder
> Personal, NetBeans, Eclipse. It is quite similar to VS.NET without the
> price.
>
> That's the good thing about Java: CHOICE and FREE software! With .NET, all
> you have is MS (although that will likely change in the future - like
> C#Builder which is free).
>
> Give Java a try!
>
>