Re: Java technology versus .net

From: Mr. x (a_at_b.com)
Date: 10/08/03 

Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2003 04:51:26 +0200

For what you've said :

* What may be the disatvantages you think of Java Applet (but I think, that
flash has less components, and has less abilities then applets) ?
* WebLogic, for curiousity, how much does it cost ?
* Well, I am using windows-xp platform, and try to use the free - lot of
installation, that doesn't work, can you give me some good links, please.
* May I use applets that calls every page I would like (even *.aspx) or a
web-service ?
* I had a problem of JBuilder 8, that supports of hebrew was bad, and every
time writting single character in Hebrew + save causing hunging the system.
Is there any problem supporting Hebrew ?

Thanks :)

"Chris Smith" <cdsmith@twu.net> wrote in message
news:MPG.19ed20a69ef1482a989699@nntp...
> Mr. x wrote:
> > Though I have written a lot of code in .net, I am still feel as a
newbie.
> > I didn't know that I can use both Flash & Web-Logic, or both flash and
Java
> > Applets.
>
> Flash and Java applets and Java WebStart are client-side technologies.
> They all speak to the server using HTTP communication. You can use them
> with whatever server-side components you desire.
>
> > What did you mean of Java Webstart ? Is it some of java free tools ?
> >
>
> It is, indeed, a free Java tool. It's a better option for client-side
> development in Java than applets, at least for most situations.
>
> > In my program, I should use Flash and not Java Applets (you stated that
Java
> > Applets are not really good/evil ... - did you really mean that Java
applet
> > is not good, or I missunderstood your English ?).
>
> Well, I was partly joking, but there are some very important
> disadvantages of Java applets. There are very few situations in which
> they are a good idea, in my opinion.
>
> > I think that web-logic is quite expensive,
>
> Oh yes. That's the understatement of the year. WebLogic is more that
> "quite expensive". The term "ludicrously expensive" is better.
>
> It's not required to use JSPs or servlets, though. WebLogic is a J2EE
> application server, and is intended for deploying EJBs for enterprise
> middleware. It's only a web application server only as a sideline. If
> what you want is a web application, look into Jakarta Tomcat (which is
> free) or Caucho Resin (which costs a lot less than WebLogic). Combined
> with a *good* O/R mapper like Oracle TopLink (rather expensive...) or
> Hibernate (free), you get something that works far better than WebLogic
> for most problems, anyway.
>
> > In bottom line : I should use Flash, and .NET technology - Am I right ?
>
> I still think you're too quick to eliminate options before you
> understand them. I can't answer that question for you, but I can say
> that if you eliminate JSPs as an architectural choice because you think
> you'd have to buy WebLogic to use them, you're on very poor ground.
> Take the time to understand your options, and then make a choice. It's
> much more pleasant than making a choice only to later discover that your
> motivation for the decision was really a misunderstanding.
>
> You still haven't provided any detail on the specific challenges that
> your application will face. Except perhaps to imply that you'll
> possibly be communicating with the user in Hebrew???
>
> > Right now I am using notepad for writing (and, believe me - I have
written a
> > lot), but still debugging is very difficult task - Is Visual Studio .NET
is
> > good enough to debug all of web-based scripts (.NET - like aspx, asmx,
css,
> > html, and any script I could imagine), and good enough for supporting
> > scripts in language different than English (like Hebrew) ?
>
> I don't know much about .NET. The former is almost certainly possible
> with Visual Studio (though I can't imagine what you mean by "debugging"
> CSS and HTML, since they aren't procedural in nature, and I'd be
> surprised to see a debugger in VS.NET for client-side scripting
> languages like JavaScript). You'll be better off asking in a Microsoft
> newsgroup about the latter. This is the wrong forum for that question.
>
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>
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