Re: Java Application (ie no gui, applets, etc) Beginners Books?

From: Andrew Thompson (andrew64_at_bigNOSPAMpond.com)
Date: 01/07/04 

Date: Wed, 07 Jan 2004 08:39:09 GMT

Sorry, Mark, have few actual suggestions for you, but..

"Markis Landis Gardner" <math_nospam_math@bellsouth.net> wrote in
message news:%4JKb.2167$Gh.695@bignews6.bellsouth.net...
| I am looking for a good beginners Java book that does not teach
applets or
| web programming. Just what I call console programming. I want
to first
| learn that then work my way up to GUI's and applets and web
programming. I

I feel you've made a good choice.
1) It is simpler debugging from the command line.
2) The 'drag-n-drop' GUI design IDE's that most
people scream for when they are learning Java,
don't teach you how to do things from the command
line. When something goes wrong (as it invariably does)
they have no clue how to fix it.
3) Command line classes can have a GUI put on top
later (one of the advantages of OO)

Having had my little rave, I will give
you the link to Sun's Java tutorial trails
http://java.sun.com/docs/books/tutorial/java/index.html

Unfortunately a lot of Sun's examples
seem to both abuse OO to jam all
functionality of the example into a
single class, as well as have a tendency to
use examples that assume you want a GUI.

[ I think that there will be better recommendations,
but I just thought I'd suggest it in case you were
not be aware of them. ]

HTH (and all the best in your learning) 

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Andrew Thompson
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