Re: Java Application (ie no gui, applets, etc) Beginners Books?

From: Ryan Stewart (zaphod_at_no.texas.spam.net)
Date: 01/07/04 

Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2004 06:44:59 -0600

"Andrew Thompson" <andrew64@bigNOSPAMpond.com> wrote in message
news:NAPKb.81579$aT.80172@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
> Sorry, Mark, have few actual suggestions for you, but..
>
> "Markis Landis Gardner" <math_nospam_math@bellsouth.net> wrote in
> message news:%4JKb.2167$Gh.695@bignews6.bellsouth.net...
> | I am looking for a good beginners Java book that does not teach
> applets or
> | web programming. Just what I call console programming. I want
> to first
> | learn that then work my way up to GUI's and applets and web
> programming. I
>
> I feel you've made a good choice.
> 1) It is simpler debugging from the command line.
> 2) The 'drag-n-drop' GUI design IDE's that most
> people scream for when they are learning Java,
> don't teach you how to do things from the command
> line. When something goes wrong (as it invariably does)
> they have no clue how to fix it.
> 3) Command line classes can have a GUI put on top
> later (one of the advantages of OO)
>
> Having had my little rave, I will give
> you the link to Sun's Java tutorial trails
> http://java.sun.com/docs/books/tutorial/java/index.html
>
> Unfortunately a lot of Sun's examples
> seem to both abuse OO to jam all
> functionality of the example into a
> single class, as well as have a tendency to
> use examples that assume you want a GUI.
>
> [ I think that there will be better recommendations,
> but I just thought I'd suggest it in case you were
> not be aware of them. ]
>
> HTH (and all the best in your learning)
>
> --
> Andrew Thompson
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Ah, and on that note, look here often as you learn and have questions,
assuming you're using the latest version:
http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.4.1/docs/api/index.html

Or the downloadable version (which will save you a ton of time later unless
you always have perfect net connectivity):
http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.4.1/download.html

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