Re: Java implementation of crypt() wanted!

From: Mark Murphy (n-murphy_at_charter.net)
Date: 09/21/04 

Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2004 22:46:31 -0700

Mark Marcus wrote:
> On Mon, 20 Sep 2004 11:58:03 GMT, Andrew Thompson
> <SeeMySites@www.invalid> wrote:

>>Do you mean this?
>><http://www.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/007908799/xsh/crypt.html>
>>
>>>..Can somebody help me?
>>
>>I dunno. Can you help yourself? Do you Google?
>>
>>Ten minutes ago I had not heard of crypt, but I figure
>>some of these 8,130 hits might assist your solution..
>><http://google.com/search?q=unix+crypt+java+%22source+code%22>
>>
>>HTH
>

> You know, Andrew, I think you mean well... but this kind of response
> in a newsgroup simply doesn't do. It's very rude, and doesn't do the
> Java community any benefit. If you don't know the answer, then don't
> post a reply. Your snide "Use google" isn't helping anyone.

Mark, I can't disagree with you more. I'm new with Java but in no way
new to newsgroups. The problem is that as mentioned people find it
easier for others to do research for them. The big problem with
newsgroups is not that those contributors like Andrew are not around,
it's that they are overwhelmed by the lack of effort on some peoples
part. It's not that people are unwilling to help, but how many times do
you what to answer the same question? This is nothing new, you always
have a few people who are more leaches then contributors.

Andrew is a big contributor, I know this because as a newbie I have been
lurking in the Java newsgroups everyday. Learning from others. When I
have a question and after searching google, and google groups I post.
You will also notice I don't post much and what I do I do it in the
appropriate group, java.help (for beginners)

Andrew could have worded his response in a kinder manner, but he was on
the money. If on the other hand the requester had supplied the link to
the spec showing he did some work for himself I'm sure he would have
received a different response. I guess I am more sensitive to this since
I deal with this type of behavior on a daily basis at work.

> Once upon a time, Usenet was so much more useful. What happened?
Your right he should have used "RTFM!" a Usenet staple.

Mark Murphy

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