Re: Giving an application a window icon in a sensible way

wesley.hall@xxxxxxxxx wrote:
nobody has yet mentioned anything remotely resembling a URL for it, and
it should be fairly obvious that a google search with the query "ant"
is unlikely to produce anything relevant here.

Clearly you didn't even try.

Of course I didn't. A three letter query with a different, mainstream
dictionary meaning is far too likely to fail to be worth considering.

Yes, it integrates easily with eclipse and any other serious IDE. It is
a tool for scripting your build process so, while there is a slight
overhead in writing the script (and it shouldnt be more than an hour or
two, infact, probably far less time than you have already spent arguing
the toss on this newgroup), once the script is written it will
significantly improve your build and testing cycle as you can use it to
automate your build, run your tests, generate your documentation,
create a Java webstart archive for your software, deploy it to an app
server (although this seems not to be required for your software) etc
etc.

There are a number of notes regarding the above:
1. An hour or two? I'll need some proof it can easily do something
amazing you can't easily do with Eclipse on its own before that looks
like a worthwhile investment of time.
2. Webstart? This is a standalone app, rather than an applet, servlet,
or some kind of specialized client/server thing. Are you sure this
recommendation isn't based on a misapprehension of the nature of what
I'm doing? It's quite possible that your suggestion is well suited for
developing some kind of web app and rather less so in the case of a
standalone one...
3. False dichotomy. You presuppose I have a choice to *either* use this
tool *or* argue here. In fact, the choice is to argue here, or to use
the tool *and* argue here. My choice not to argue here vanished the
moment the first insult was slung. Now it is necessary to defend myself
and my choices in front of the same audience you're trying to convince
of my guilt/stupidity/whatever it is that you think.

You will also be able to set up an use a continous integration
server that will periodically check out your code (assuming you are
running a version control system like CVS and subversion... and if not,
you should be)

For a one-person project? You're joking. It would take me weeks to
learn to use such a complex tool, and then I have to operate some kind
of a server, then some kind of equally unfamiliar client ... that even
has *security* implications, since I have to make sure that the server
isn't visible to the outside world if I start running a server of some
sort.

And I thought some other people here were suggesting swatting flies
with bazookas. This is closer to disinfecting a dirty toilet with a
thermonuclear bomb.

and run the build and tests, emailing you if there are
any failures so you find out about integration errors quickly an
efficiently.

What the devil do you think is going on here -- a complex multiperson
operation with three or four large racks of servers, a LAN, and Christ
alone knows what else? It's a guy with a couple computers working
largely on his own. I certainly don't need my own computer emailing me
when I can just have it pop up a tray notification or whatever. :) And
if you think I'm going to run any kind of remote administration tool
you're dreaming. Not without most of that stuff I don't have -- LAN,
hardware firewall, 24/7 technical staff, racks of servers and backup
tape machines recording night and day, and the substantial lotto
winnings that would be required to finance all of that stuff.

I can assure you that if you take on contract work, or work on any
serious established product, you WILL come across this tool eventually.
You seem to be underestimating how ubiquitous it actually is.

Another case of "I'll cross that bridge when I come to it".

To be honest, given the arrogant tone of your first two reply sections,
and your requirement that others do all the legwork for you (down to
actually doing the google search!)

What? In the very first post to the thread, I mentioned having googled
something myself. Later, I mentioned having googled some more. Nowhere
did I ask anyone to do any "legwork"; at most, to divulge things they
clearly already knew and therefore could not have to go find.

You must be replying to the wrong person here. There isn't any other
explanation for the astonishing stuff suggested by the paragraph I just
quoted.

I am not even sure why I am even bothering to reply. In any case, I am done with
this thread

Oh goody.

you will either take the good advice provided here and move forward, or
continue in your (false) belief that you are the smartest and most experience
Java developer around.

Increasingly, it looks like faulty logic is surprisingly common in this
group. I'm surprised you can program anything with flow control more
complex than "hello, world" if you believe the false dichotomy above.

How about I take option number three, instead, in which I may take or
leave some or all of the advice provided here while continuing to not
believe I'm anything of the sort?

.

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