Re: Giving an application a window icon in a sensible way



Twisted wrote:
Tom Forsmo wrote:
You really dont get it!

Neither of us "gets" the other. That much is clear.

No you really dont get it. I get what you want. You want to be the last man standing with all "slanderous" statements about you eradicated for eternity. What I am trying to tell you is that, such an approach works in real life in a more confined situation such as at the office or in the media, but it does not work on the internet. The reason is simple, in real life and in media, what someone says about another leaves an actual impression on others which last longer than it takes to listen to the argument. Why does it leave an impression? because the people speaking and the people listening are known to each other, so they care what is being said. On the internet, it does not work like that, because no one knows you and hence do not care unless you say something usefull or helpfull. All other statments are just ignored, because there is so much *** on the net anyway. Thats why your approach is flawed.

I don't give a *** what those goals are, but they sound frivolous and
non-Java-related, so pursue them elsewhere. Regardless, they don't
justify putting someone's character publicly into question (especially
not if they are in fact frivolous).

You put yourself in that position when you started being rude when unprovoked... You know if a dog exibits unnaturally dangerous behaviour or are aggressive without being provoked, they are put down...

where undermining me simply is a way for you to stroke your own ego. It
just makes you a bigger *** and one with a lower IQ. At least
undermining your coworkers has some rational, material gain motivating
it. It's nasty but not necessarily stupid. Your online behavior, on the
other hand, is both.

Well i cant help but throw in a couple of comments now and then, but thats only because you are begging for it. But in all honesty I am trying to help you by explaining you faulty behaviour, but I can not demand that you understand it, that is something you have to do on your own... and its taking a hell of a long time for you to start showing that you are at least on the right track...

If I did that, a) I have no guarantee that it *would* die. Perhaps,
emboldened by the lack of responses and sensing weakening prey, the
attackers will just press home a final assault instead. b) Even if
"playing possum" does work, the damage from their last bunch of attacks
will go unmitigated!

There is a difference between walking away and playing dead. The bigger man walks away when hes sees any further attempts are futile. Only a looser thinks playing dead is the solution.

No one has asked you play dead, we are asking you to be the bigger man and end it quietly by walking away from this hopeless discussion (hopeful that you will understand why that is the best solution on the net)

Any behavior that is not intentionally harmful, nor negligent, is by
definition innocuous. It may be eccentric, but people can ignore it
with impunity (unlike, say, a knife-charge, or being exposed to spam).

No body cares about intention, the only thing that matters is how its perceived. So its your job, to adapt what you want to say to how you want it perceived. If people perceive it in another way than you intended it, you have to rephrase it. You can not blame others for not understanding your intentions if you are uncapable of adapting it to the people you talk to.

[insults me]

Ah, now you show your true colors again, after a period of trying to
"reason with" (read: trick) me.

I dont deny it, sometimes I like to poke fun at retards... (eventhough my better judgement tells me that its wrong, I cant help but doing it once in a while, its my vice, whats yours?)

And be seen and not heard, no doubt. That is the way I hear they do
things where you apparently come from (based on your attitudes and your
reference to Kim Jong-Il), but that is not the way of my part of the
world and it is not my way.

So where you come from people listen to the people who dont know anything and ignore the ones who does? interresting approach. maybe that explains why you are having no luck convincing people here you are right.

In any case, where do I come from? You can not make such a statement without having an informed opinion about it...

What you did was: you asked a question, did not get the answer you
expected or liked and started telling people to piss off. Thats quite
rude, so here you are...

Wrong. First of all, you neglect to mention that the thing I disliked
about the answer I got was that it criticized me for what is actually
praiseworthy behavior: trying to solve the problem myself with some
research, and actually succeeding.

You got it all backwards, people first tried to inform you that your problem should not be solved the way wanted to solve it, then you found an answer you liked, then you started telling people off because they still tried to tell you that it was not the way to go about the problem.

I wouldnt go as far as calling it praiseworthy that you found an answer, I would rather just call it the way its supposed to be. You should try to figure it out by yourself because thats how you learn. Then you post a message explaining what you found out and why you chose that solution so that others in similar situations can use that information. No where does it say people are not allowed to respond with criticism of a proposed solution. In fact its actually incurraged, so that people can discuss it and together find the best solution with all aspects taken into consideration.

Secondly, I did not simply "start telling people to piss off".

I argued
with them about why their criticism of me was unfounded.

Apparently you
think that Certain People are not to be argued with by The Likes Of Me,
but since you come from some world of feudal lords and fealty oaths,
that's just you. Apparently, some other people here like to pretend
that they ARE feudal lords, and dislike being reminded that they
actually are not,

One of those people are you.

But nothing *I* did was wrong.

Thats not what the rest of us think. And you believe in majority rule dont you? you must, because you come from a secular democracy... (and I am only a lowly person from a dark and evil place called the "old world" by the esteemed benefactor of the only true democracy in the world, Cheney, Rumsfeld and Associates)


When I did get around to telling people to piss off, it was *long*
after it became abundantly clear that those specific people had nothing
constructive to say (albeit a few subtle, "constructive-sounding"
attempts to trick me into either letting their trash talk go
unchallenged or into actually "admitting" to the nasty things they
claimed about me).

it wasnt an attempt, its was succesful.. you have massacred yourself so many times by now, that many people in this news group have noticed you and will not spend any time on your future questions, just because of your previous behaviour...

first of all, english is not my native langauge and I dont live in an
english speaking country...

That much is obvious, since most English-speaking countries these days
are secular democracies, and your place of origin is obviously some
kind of feudal monarchy or dictatorship.

Because in secular democracies no body behaves like this? Here is a news-flash for you; its the same petty human behaviour all over the world. It does not matter where you are from or what background you have, someone from that background will behave like a prick for that persons own interrest. Human nature is being greedy and selfish... and there are plenty of them in your country too.



Btw lets try to make a record of this: worlds longest running thread...
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