Re: Counting Char's Within Strings




"Luc The Perverse" <sll_noSpamlicious_z_XXX_m@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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"Oliver Wong" <owong@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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"Lew" <lew@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Lew wrote:
not all locales have "vowels".

I mean, not all have the same "vowels".

I am now tempted to discover or invent a language which does not have
any vowels.

That would certainly sound interesting.

Of course it depends on what you mean. For a language to have no vowel
sounds would make it very . . unfluid.

But for instance Hebrew only records consonant sounds

I'm working with the definition of vowel which says that it is a sound.
That is, letters in themselves cannot be classified as being vowels or not,
but the pronunciations of letters can be classified as being vowels or not
(similarly, invisible things like "love" or "honor" cannot be classified as
being red or not, but visible things like "my car" or "clouds" can be
classified as being red or not).

I don't know about Hebrew, but I'd imagine it *does* have vowel sounds,
even if you do not explicitly write them. Similarly, as another poster
noted, I wouldn't count "cn y rd ths?" as being a vowel-less language. There
are vowels -- they are simply implied.

I asked a linguist friend of mine about it, and she said that while it's
logically possible for such a language to exist (e.g. if the language were
composed only of the nasal "n" sound, and timing to communicate, sounding
like a series of grunts of varying duration), it would be extremely unlikely
for such a language to naturally evolve into existence. So any such language
would probably be artificially invented.

- Oliver


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