Re: SYNCHRONIZING problem



Joshua Cranmer wrote:
adrian.bartholomew@xxxxxxxxx wrote:

why do customs have to mostly consist of the american way?
is this not the internet?
is the internet not international by its definition?

Try this on for size: the internet was *developed* by the *Pentagon*

Wrong size? DARPA specifically. A lot of development work on the IMPs was done by BBN wasn't it?

so that critical *United States* services would not go down in the event of a nuclear war.

So far as I know that is something of an urban myth. The Arpanet was designed to facilitate sharing of information and computing facilities between four ARPA research sites. It didn't touch operational military services. If Berkely had been wiped out by a nuclear strike I doubt the presence or absence of Arpanet at the remaining three research sites would have had any impact at all on the organisation of the counterstrike.

After the internet was privatized and bought by *American* companies, the companies and organizations in charge of the standards decided that because the biggest market was America (that is after all where the internet was), specifications should be written using American conventions so that people would not have to learn new conventions.

Not according to the IETF RFC editor
http://www.rfc-editor.org/pipermail/rfc-interest/2006-February/000465.html

At the time of transition to commercial funding, the Internet was not exclusively "in America" (by which I guess you exclude all countries in the south and far north of the continent) I registered a commercial UK domain with the US department of defence DDN NIC in March 1993.

It is a 100% marketing decision: based in *America*, written by *Americans*, used primarily by *Americans*, you're saying that it should use *British* conventions? Why don't we then conduct all government in Latin, it's just as foreign to Americans?

Adrian has written some ridiculous things, but I don't think he said that. Later he writes of coexistence between British English and American English. Just as the RFC editor does. I think that's what he meant. I don't care that much but it's unfair to misrepresent what he wrote.

Finally, the internet is *not* international by definition:

Which definition are you referring to? reference?

Not this I guess:
http://www.nitrd.gov/fnc/Internet_res.html
"Internet" refers to the *global* information system
Questions or Systems problems should be reported to
FNC_Webmaster@xxxxxxxxx

Frankly, I think ARPA ought to know.


the internet is an interconnected network; any time you have a WAN, it is an internet. Nowhere does international stuff come into the definition.

Most commentators make a distinction between internet and Internet (obviously Adrian disables himself from so doing) The Internet is international and always has been (excluding early ARPANET)

http://som.csudh.edu/cis/lpress/history/arpamaps/arpanetmar77.jpg

Note LONDON in the bottom right corner using ICL and GEC computers.


OK so the Internet was a US invention, I guess if it hadn't existed I might today be using an international JANET and cambridge-ring LANs. If you want to belittle foreigners you could at least get your facts a bit straighter :-)
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