Re: Java and avoiding software piracy?


"Andreas Leitgeb" <avl@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Twisted <twisted0n3@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Jul 20, 5:25 am, Andreas Leitgeb <a...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
Oliver Wong <ow...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Can you produce a screencast demonstrating the problem? I can't
reproduce your bug on my WinXP SP2 machine.
I think to remember that Windows tends to show just-recently-modified
files at the end of the list. ...
1. This occurs moving files within a single logical drive.
ok, then there must be some other/further reasons...
2. - 5. [reasons why it is to be considered a bug]

I didn't deny that. I thought my speculations could help Oliver to
reproduce these symptoms, nothing else. Because I don't do this
Windows crap myself, I also couldn't verify these tricks.

Well, I'll tell you one of the reasons I couldn't reproduce Twisted's
bug:

I don't know what he's doing to get the "I beam" that he mentions. The
I beam does not show up in either "List View" nor "Detail View" when I'm
dragging files from folder to folder. So right away, that makes the
problem non-reproduceable for me, and hence my request for a video
demonstrating the bug, so I can see exactly everything that he is doing.

I'm a dedicated windows-hater, but frequently notice that I still
know it better than most self-entitled windows-lovers/experts.
Probably because you know the bugs and the lovers turn a blind eye to
the same.
Those things I said I knew about windows are actually only rarely
related
with bugs. I've seen long-time windows users who hadn't even known
that you could switch windows with Alt+Tab, and rather selected their
just-recently used window from some group in the taskbar whenever they
wanted to return to it.
Or that one can put a shortcut of applications that were installed
deeply nested in the Start->Applications-menu into the taskbar for
quick access.

It sounds like, then, that you're simply meeting a lot of arrogant
Windows users[*]. I would not consider someone who did not know about
alt-tabbing to be a "Windows expert", for example, any more than I'd
consider someone who did not know what "ls" does or what "bash" is to be a
"Linux expert".

The fact that *I* don't consider them to be experts, of course, does
nothing to prevent them from applying the "expert" label to themselves,
however.

- Oliver

*: Arrogant, in the case of the self-entitled windows-experts. I suppose a
self-entitled windows-lover who did not know many shortcuts and features
of Windows would not necessarily be particularly arrogant (or hypocritical
or any other negative adjective). I guess it's not unlike a person who
really likes the taste of sushi, but doesn't know the supposedly intricate
rules for "maximizing the pleasures" of sushi, nor how sushi is prepared,
etc.: He'd be a sushi-lover who doesn't know a whole lot about sushi.


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