Re: Java 7 features
- From: Joe Attardi <jattardi@xxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sat, 04 Aug 2007 04:52:09 -0000
On Aug 3, 8:22 pm, Twisted <twisted...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
There's a simple answer to that problem: DON'T CRITICIZE ME.Holy ***. It can't get any funnier than this.
You're on an Internet discussion group and you are saying not to
criticize you? Who made you the moderator of this group? If anybody in
this group wants to criticize or disagree with your views, that's
their right, just like it's your right to have your views. Yelling at
everybody to not criticize you is very childish. The only way to get
people in this group to stop criticizing you is to (1) stop starting
fights in every thread you go in, or (2) stop posting in the group.
Sadly, (2) doesn't seem likely, although (1) doesn't seem very likely
either.
This is a forum about Java programming, not about me or any other person, andWrong again. If a person's views on a particular aspect of Java
centering a discussion around a person and their traits, including but
not limited to perceived/accused failings, is off-topic here anyway.
programming, or software in general, are disagreed with by others,
you'd be stupid not to expect some debate. What's wrong with debating
it anyway? You don't debate, though; you treat any disagreement as a
deep personal attack and completely overreact every time.
I am not a small child;But you do act like one a lot. ("DON'T CRITICIZE ME!!!!! WAAAAH!!!!)
I do not need "correcting" nor do I desire it.People can correct, criticize, or disagree with you if they want.
There is nothing you can do about it, so your only two possible
choices are to accept it like the rest of us, or just leave.
I certainly don't take kindly to being accused of things, called names,Awww. The world is a cruel place. You should just deal with it like
or otherwise harassed in public.
the rest of us...
the tendency I find with usenet nitpickers, pedants, andThat's par for the course in Usenet, though. Interestingly enough,
hasslers is that they respond to any such post with another volley of
fire rather than moving on. It's as if they feel there's a score to
settle without having originally been provoked -- they "settle" it
with the first attack post, and the defending/rebutting response then
puts the score back to needing settling, so they use another attack
post, and so on;
there is usually a lot less of it in web-based forums, which for some
reason you are unusually opposed to.
trash-talking self-styled Internet tough guys looking to make a name forYou have just pretty much described yourself.
themselves with a little unsolicited jousting or one-upmanship.
Look, man, I know I do give you a hard time. But honestly, you do it
to yourself by continuing to treat this as a life-or-death defense of
your worldwide reputation. So someone criticized you in a Usenet
discussion. So what? Believe it or not, nobody really cares! It won't
keep you from getting a job, or getting a date, or making friends.
You complain that everyone is attacking you, which sometimes, yes, is
true - but dude, you continually fan the flames by making more and
more outrageous long-winded comebacks. You take things so, so
seriously, and instead of sometimes even considering the possibility
that for once you might be wrong, and maybe learn something and get on
with your life, you respond with volley after volley of ramblings. And
while it may be immature, it baits people that want to get into it
with you. I mean, flamewars have always been a staple of Usenet.
Sometimes, they are pretty hilarious, especially when one of the
participants is taking it as seriously as you. I mean at this point,
it's getting so ridiculous that I call my wife over to the computer to
show her some of the gems in here (like "DON'T CRITICIZE ME!"). She,
being removed from it all, can see how ridiculous all of us are being
(yes, I do include myself in the "us"). Sometimes, maybe even a lot of
the time, the topic does drift away (we stopped discussing Java 7
features a while ago!) But when you come back time and time again with
such intense anger, I can't help but keep firing back a bit.
I definitely agree with Daniel Pitts - you do know your stuff. While I
don't agree with your stances on copyright (but I do agree with you on
software patents, FWIW), you make a solid case. But that gets lost
when you resort to anger and pointless arguing. Like, seriously, why
is it such a big deal if you get "the last word" in an Internet
argument? I don't believe your life is so empty that the end-all be-
all of your day is Usenet spats, so why do you act as if it is?
Expecting people to not criticize you on a Usenet group is simply
unrealistic. And there's no point in threatening people and saying
"Don't do this again", or "If you keep doing/saying this it will not
be tolerated", because there's nothing you CAN do about it. It's a
public and unmoderated forum. It makes you look like an ass when you
give those empty ultimatums, which you as of yet have failed to back
up.
When I sent that email, I really was seeking a truce. But the fact
that you not only didn't reply, but denied I even sent it, tells me at
least that you are more interested in just arguing for the sake of
arguing.
.
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