Re: Java 7 features



On Sep 3, 2:10 pm, blm...@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <blm...@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
You said (or at least implied) that you found it in a Seinfeld
newsgroup. It's pretty much a given that such a newsgroup is one of
rec.fan, alt.fan, or foreign-language. :P

I don't understand how you get from that an implication that I
found this silly thing in a Seinfeld newsgroup. Why would I be
reading such a group, given that -- as I stated -- I'm not a fan?

I have no idea. But it's a usenet acronym, and you associated it with
Seinfeld; the intersection of the two yields "a Seinfeld newsgroup" as
the source.

Anyway, do you never come across references to pop culture
in newsgroups devoted to other topics?

I mostly ignore off-topic posts in any newsgroup, except when my
reputation and good name has been dragged into the discussion in some
way, shape, or form and therefore there's something at stake.

It's only ever been used for the first time by you the other day in
CLJP, which nonetheless made #10 on this list. That makes it pretty
darn obscure.

Not true, according to a quick search of Google's archives -- but
the previous mention was in a post by, um, me, in February 2006.
Hm.

In other words, yes true. It's obscure. It's used once a year or so
online and by just one person. It doesn't get much more obscure than
that. :)

The entry just above cjlp is alt.usage.english. Very likely
that's where I came across this silly thing -- it's a group I
follow, though not always closely. Digging a little deeper into
the archives, I notice that some people there also had to have
the thing explained. Hm.

Evidence that it might not be a good idea to assume everyone will
understand it at a glance. :)

Odd that you'd find such appalling English (gratuitous use of
acronyms, no less!) in alt.usage.english -- maybe because the "alt"
dominates the other terms in the equation. :P

But much as it pains me to say so, especially after being called a
nitwit, I'll concede that two out of three isn't, in this context,
an overwhelming majority, and you probably have a point that this
silly initialism is not one I should be slinging around in cjlp.

Not if your intent is to communicate clearly and easily, without
overly burdening your readers with the need to ask clarifying
questions (whether of you or of Google).

As for the "two out of three", it's a rather small sample size.

As for "nitwit" that was semi-humorous (there was a smiley in
proximity, too).

Despite the implied criticism, that either there was a flaw in your
logic (= you are stupid) or you should simply have already known the
answer (= you are an ignoramus)?

For me it might depend on how the error was pointed out. I don't
think I automatically take "you're wrong" as an insult.

Even when stated that tactlessly?

I don't take these as insults -- I'm mildly embarrassed about
being caught in a mistake, but glad it was spotted.

Mighty generous of you to let those slide but sooner or later it will
result in your having a reputation for being a stupid ignoramus if
such perceptions about you propagate uncorrected by you, won't it?

Well, my thinking is that admitting a mistake in public adds to
my credibility rather than reducing it (because it indicates that
I'm more interested in truth and facts than in being perceived
as always right).

That's very strange. It would seem to suggest to people that a) you're
more likely to be wrong in the first place, even if b) you're more
likely to fix it later.


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