Re: Why are women too dumb to program a computer???

On 29 Okt., 11:42, Wildemar Wildenburger
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Christian wrote:
Thats some knowledge about the world where you need TV that shows you
some people getting kicked while lying on the ground. Otherwise I can't
imagine anyone to come up with this, with his own mind.

A hypthetical argument:
Consider a "blank" human (newborn). Assume that it is not exposed to
role models at all (which is impossible, but for the sake of the
argument). That human does have (at least) physical needs, which we may
assume he can learn to fulfill all by himself. If someone (the
"opponent") were to deny him this fulfillment, hightened activity to the
point of aggression against the opponent is the result. What value does
the "blank" human have of the life of the other. All the blank human
sees is an obstacle that needs to be overcome. So what would keep him
from killing the opponent? My theory: Nothing.

You called me "naive" in response to another post. Please allow me to
give this compliment back :)
What would keep the "blank" single person from killing another?
Perhaps the fact that he would be too sick and weak to kill anything
due to malnutrition and cold?


This is severely simplified, a lot of necessary arguments left out.
Still my main point is this: If you have no estimate of the value of
another person's life or well-being, you can not be expected set
yourself limits as to how you treat people.

Maybe, but this is pointless because this premise will seldom be
fulfilled given that humans are social animals. You can't, for
example, generalize data found about "wild children" (i.e. being
raised by wolves). Sure, such a former wild child may have no problem
killing people. (But does he kill wolves?)


And I'm not convinced that a
such "scale of value" is intrinsic to a human. I think it is mostly
aquired by society.

But "society" is just - other humans and their relations. And having
relations already presupposes human beings that do *NOT* usually kill
each other. Thus you get into circular reasoning when you deny the
"intrinsic scale of value", as you call it. (I'd rather call it
"biological givens".)

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