Re: OT: gossip [WAS: Re: My prime counting function]
- From: gjedwards <gjedwards@xxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2008 02:44:01 -0700 (PDT)
On 7 Aug, 03:29, JSH <jst...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Aug 5, 7:19 pm, Daniele Futtorovic <da.futt.n...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
On 06/08/2008 03:12, JSH allegedly wrote:
On Aug 5, 7:30 am, Daniele Futtorovic <da.futt.n...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
Err.. isn't it rather that you went at loggerheads in every newsgroup
where it might have been on topic and that you tried a clean start?
I'll admit I'm a great believer in the adversarial process because I
figure that the truth will stand after all the fire and fireworks.
Yeah... that would really soothe my mind if I were immortal.
Think so? I don't get that. Like, if you're waiting on something?
What would you be waiting on?
Besides, I hate it when people just agree with me.
Yep, I agree. (:prod:)
It's too easy. I've had enough experience with people just nodding
along with me to last a lifetime. Don't like it. Don't want it.
Don't need it.
Absolutely. (:prod: :prod:)
Doesn't mean you're wrong altogether, but between a rock and a hard
place nonetheless.
Not really. Supposedly the saving grace IS actually being right and
being able to prove it.
What I found is that proof is not enough.
You have probably found that proof itself has a social component. While
there *is* such a thing as "absolute" proof -- logic, causality,
dialectic, the like; which would seem to derive from the basic
properties of matter and, as I'm being told, from the fact that the
universe goes from higher to lower entropy and not the opposite --,
while there is such a thing, it matters little, in the short term at
least, if there is no social consensus about it.
Why don't you Google "definition of mathematical proof" and read what
I just checked now is coming up #2?
(Yeah, I wrote it.)
Social consensus has nothing to do with mathematical proof.
Nothing.
Trouble is that none of us is immortal, and that the "short term" may
well span a whole life.
I don't mean to sound cynical, nota bene.
--
DF.
That's not cynical.
If you buy into the notion that you're working to convince people of
something then you can lose beauty. I think at your best--and you
should always do your best!!!--you're working to find beauty, and then
you're hoping to find some people to share in that, but if not, life
goes on.
Now doesn't it.
James Harris
Or you could just read a dictionary of math:
For example, according to The Harper Collins Dictionary of
Mathematics:
proof n. a sequence of statements, each of which is either validly
derived from those preceding it or is an axiom or assumption, and the
final member of which, the conclusion, is the statement of which the
truth is thereby established.
.
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