Re: My OPE & the Euclicidean TSP
- From: JSH <jstevh@xxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 07:15:02 -0700 (PDT)
On Aug 17, 10:19 pm, Patricia Shanahan <p...@xxxxxxx> wrote:
JSH wrote:
On Aug 17, 7:32 pm, Patricia Shanahan <p...@xxxxxxx> wrote:...
So why don't you just write up the relatively simple 2-D Euclidean TSP
algorithm in Java? That would convince people to help you with the rest
of your OPE ideas.
I'm about to head off as I think I've achieved all my objectives but I
think that's an excellent question that's worth answering fully.
I have the perspective of quite a few major discoveries under my belt
where I'm waiting for the world to catch up (and it's a remarkably
slow world considering how brilliant so many people seem to think it
is). But still it has been a rather HUGE shock to have the optimal
path algorithm pop up, prove that P=NP, and solve TSP through the use
of an additional degree of freedom that is, so rather, well, simple,
and I'm trying to absorb the emotional impact as much as anything
else.
....
I suggest absorbing the technical impact first, and getting on with
implementing your algorithm. Don't assume your algorithm is correct
before it has been precisely specified, preferably through a runnable
implementation, and proved correct for all cases.
Patricia
Simpler to me if it's all incorrect. Kind of preferable.
Have you ever been on a product development team from the beginning
all the way to the end? Any idea the effort involved to get an app
out there from first steps to a full blown product?
My take on reading posts in this thread is that none of you have ever
been on major Java coding project from inception to product release as
you seem to think it's easier than it is.
I like mentioning Class Viewer because it's great for perspective
where that's a simple app, that primarily is just a middle-ware app
between Java Reflections and the coder, which just makes the raw
output from Java Reflections easier to read, and also will take you to
javadocs directly (I know suddenly sounding like a commercial but I
have a point here).
That project is not a lot of lines of code, and is a very simple
concept and it took YEARS for Class Viewer to reach its current form
though that was with me doing all the programming.
The energy investment and the time investment that you all seem to
take for granted is almost unimaginable which is what's necessary to
get to world class where your app comes up higher in search engines
than one Microsoft has of the same name or one that World of Warcraft
has of the same name.
World class.
When you people have your own major apps on the world stage that
dominate at the top of the heap then you come back to me and explain
how I should step out a major project, as then you'll have some real
world experience versus some vague notion where I think you take for
granted all these wonderful apps out there, without understanding the
pain, energy and time that all of the world class applications and
applications packages and operating systems took, from Windows to
Google to Linux, to Open Office, to Microsoft Word, all the way to my
little Class Viewer.
So don't think you can tell me how to do a major app until you tell me
what you put out the door that I can Google and see you know because
you've done SOMETHING yourself.
James Harris
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