Re: Best way to force a JComponent to repaint itself

On Aug 19, 10:06 pm, zerg <z...@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
Joshua Cranmer wrote:
zerg wrote:
You don't consider telling Twisted that he (or the things that he
wrote) wasn't valid to be rude?

What do you want people to say?

I want people to say nothing at all if the only things they would
otherwise say are disagreeable and nonconstructive personal attacks on
someone's character.

Right on!

"Oh, I'm sorry, but everything you're saying is contradicted by
the wealth of available facts?"

How about "That's usually true, but there are a few rare exceptions" or
something like that, which acknowledges the truth in whatever he said?

Exceptions, schmexceptions. If I say something, either it is true,
simply and plainly true, or it is a matter of opinion.

Here I'm assuming he said something of a factual nature that turns out
to have exceptions, rather than that he outright lied (would he?)

"He" would not. And "he" would note any exceptions or throw in a
qualifier like "usually", too, both to be more precise and to avoid
giving any of "his" opponents an obvious target to attack.

If he outright lied, he's probably best off simply ignored

This is, of course, never the case.

unless he lied about you in a nasty way and you need to publicly
correct that before it begins to be believed by others.

Even this is never the case. The only times I insult a person, a) they
have done something seriously nasty to richly deserve it and b) the
insults are true statements about them.

And if he merely stated an opinion that you happen
not to agree with, you certainly should not publicly berate him for not
believing as you do.

But that's what clowns like him do to feed their obese egos! Why, if
they didn't do that their egos might actually FEEL SOME HUNGER PANGS!
My God!

"I don't think that point is valid", followed by explanation, is
about the nicest way I can think of to rebut a point.

Did it even NEED rebutting?

It did not. I can tell you this immediately, *without* reviewing which
particular incident is being referenced. Nothing that I write ever
needs "rebutting".

Actually, I'm finding these to now be amusing, in a way that kind of
sickens me. You're obviously agitating yourself and it's barely phasing
me (I haven't gotten up to pace once yet).

Joshua, some people find torturing little kittens to be amusing.

I suspect that Lars-hole is one of them.

As for you ... well, I'll continue to reserve judgment for a while
longer.

I don't find your nasty speculations and guesswork about me the least
bit amusing.

Neither did I, the last time I locked horns with this creep.

You are either a liar, or just extremely arrogant (or silly)

My guess would be that he's all of the above. :P

to keep making wrong-headed guesses about me and then publicly stating
them as if they were facts rather than mere hunches, and based on the
flimsiest possible so-called evidence.

Another hallmark by which one can recognize the Rude People(tm) in any
group.

The group-think, and your replying to attacks from one of them and
getting attacked in turn by a *different* one, like they're all
interchangeable or something, is another characteristic of drones.

You made that same mistake a short time earlier when you incorrectly
accused me of having made assumptions about your age. Even when I
corrected you, you just repeated your erroneous assertion in response!
Astounding chutzpah.

Standard drone when confronted by uncomfortable facts: pretend they
didn't hear them, or call them "irrelevant".

"The person" being someone posting from the same location?

I wonder how large the population is there.

One, of course. There's only one person in each city or using each ISP
in the world. Didn't you know that? Or at least that's what drones
believe, as evidenced by their accusing everyone who posts from the
same site of being a set of sock puppets of one another. Sometimes
they even go beyond that and accuse people randomly of being other
people that they don't like even *without* such flimsy circumstantial
evidence to support the accusation.

On the other hand, I've seen people responding to posts by accusing the
poster of being "NewsMaestro" where those posts didn't have that server
in the Ukraine in the headers at all.

I'm starting to suspect that anyone here that you (collective) don't
like you accuse of being Twisted, unless you REALLY don't like them and
they have been GENUINELY quite offensive, in which case you accuse them
of being NewsMaestro, whether or not the post headers support the
accusation.

Ah -- so Zerg has noticed this pattern also.

In particular, someone accused me of being Twisted.

Of course they did. Consider it a compliment if your standing up for
yourself gets them riled up enough for them to accuse you of being me,
the acknowledged master at not yielding to their bullying and general
bad attitude.

Based on my googling, I'm pretty sure all of Twisted's posts came from
Google Groups.

Indeed, they do.

A search for "twisted aioe" turned up little but a search for
one of his other aliases and "aioe" turned up an explicit refusal by him
to use a service with such low posting limits. (And it's not hard to
guess why!)

Much as my enemies would love for me to effectively cripple myself.
They post big batches (in another newsgroup) of 75 or so vicious
bundles of lies at a time; if I used aioe I'd reply to 25, they'd post
another 75, I'd reply to 25, and so on until eventually the whole
world was convinced of their version of reality (in which I'm evil and
horrible in all sorts of creative and unspeakable ways, of course)
simply because they were able to basically outshout me.

I'd suggest you get a google groups account (though they'll accuse you
even more often of being me) if you find aioe too constraining when
this gets worse. By my estimate, they're already posting over ten
posts a day of crap to hassle you, so it won't be long now given the
usual exponential curve.

Prejudice is an ugly thing.

That much is certain.

I am not in a position of public trust nor am I a celebrity. Therefore
it is wrong, nevermind rude, to offer publicly a negative opinion of me,

*cough*

Yes, I know, it's a bitter pill to swallow, but it's also an important
one. You have behaved in a manner that is morally wrong. Learn from it
and avoid doing it any more, and you may one day even be forgiven.

Good one! Cute. Though next time he'll just come right out and say
whatever nasty bit of nonsense he'd been meaning to imply.

Still -- cute. Take opportunities like this one when you can, because
you'll usually only each of them once.

Although, every so often you run into some jerk who is so brain-
damaged that he doesn't show even *that* rudimentary level of learning
capability.

If you can suggest a better way of rebutting all of your attacks and
those of your "friends in rudeness",

"It is better to be thought a fool than to open your mouth and be proved
to be a fool."

Your only response to this is more name-calling?

What did you expect? He's probably (again, I haven't checked the
thread very thoroughly) been doing little else but call you names for
days now, so it stands to reason that the next thing he posts to this
thread will be another instance of calling you names.

I'm disappointed in you.

Hate to tell you this, but shaming them doesn't work either. Nothing
works except their getting bored of being bastards (or their ISPs
getting bored of it on their behalf >:-)) so you generally just have
to tough it out and keep rebutting their nonsense until that happens.
Do complain to every ISP involved, and every upstream connectivity
provider, both their actual ISP and (if separate) their news provider,
mind you; you might shake a few of them off you that way and reduce
the workload a little.

Although I know by now that your motives are evil, I'd have thought
you'd try to keep up the pretense a little longer.

Ha! They don't care. I've had some goons, including one of these same
ones, actually come right out and admit to basically sociopathic
motives whilst in the middle of attacking me, admitting that it's like
pulling the wings off flies for amusement or similarly. Lars-hole
being one of these.

Here, though, by
responding to my perfectly sincere question with naught but more
personal attacks you have proven to everyone, beyond a doubt, that you
are bankrupt of anything worthwhile or reasonable to contribute to this
thread and, quite possibly, this entire newsgroup.

They're an oddly-blind sort of narcissistic personality type -- only
their opinions count, everything is about them, but they also either
can't guess what others think of them for their stupid antics, or
simply do not care. Nothing can puncture their elevated self-regard,
least of all actual hard evidence of any sort. The approval and mutual
back-patting they get from their own kind suffices for them.

Trying to humiliate them won't succeed in doing that, though it's
still worth doing both to lower their credibility in the eyes of
others (thus making whatever they're saying about *you* less of a
threat) and for the sheer enjoyment of giving them the comeuppances
they so richly deserve.

Shutting up is a very effective way because people only get one side.

A very effective way for people to only hear YOUR side? I'm sorry if I'm
not more interested in just handing you victory on a silver platter

You'll find that not only do they keep trying to trick you like this,
but after 1000 failed attempts they will just keep on trying. They are
incapable of learning. It's one of the most universal characteristics
of these twizzle-sticks.

That every time I rebut them, you post more nasty nonsense, instead of
just deciding "well, now both sides of the story have been told, and
people will decide what they will" and moving on, tells me a great deal
about your motives, though.

And I'm sure other people can draw the obvious inference regarding your
motives as well.

See above about the odd form of "blind narcissism" that these clowns
exhibit. I think it's because they lack the ability to imagine or
empathize with anyone else's point of view or thinking-processes.
Basically, they are sociopaths.

Do I care what anyone else thinks of you? No.

Yes. Or why do you expend so much energy not merely stating your opinion
of me in public but repeating it every single time I respond to tell
everyone why you're wrong?

My guess is that they really don't; they are just sociopaths and
sadists that enjoy tormenting anyone who rubs them the wrong way --
standing up to their more random bullying being sufficient to do so --
and the method these particular sociopaths have found for getting
their rocks off safely is to do it over the 'net where there's little
danger of someone kicking their asses, shooting them, calling the cops
and getting them thrown in jail, or what-have-you. And the best way to
do it over the net, where everyone can generally killfile anyone else,
is to do something nasty that their victims cannot ignore, which is
attacks on their reputation. So the reputation damage that they can
cause, while a genuine threat, is a mere *side effect* in many cases
and not their direct motivation. Destroying your public reputation and
possibly your future job prospects is just a means to an end for them,
though they pursue it with a passion.

No. You posted a public personal attack on me and I rebutted it. You
posted another one and I rebutted that. I do not intend to leave any
public personal attack of yours lacking a public rebuttal by me. That
means that YOU must be the first one to take it to email, or simply shut up.

Then you get to have said your opinions of me exactly as many times as I
get to have said my rebuttals of your opinions of me. You get to have
said I'm bad exactly as many times as I get to have said I'm good.

Aww, but then Joshua won't get to have the last word!

Sounds fair enough to me. Why are you insisting on getting to have said
your piece one MORE time than I get to have said mine? What makes you so
special? Oh, yeah -- you're the biggest stinking *** in the group,
that's what. :-P

And give that man another cigar.

At least until he gets a nasty surprise in the form of a complaint
from his internet provider about his conduct,

Once again, I'm not on an internet provider.

Everyone here is on an internet provider, whether they call it that or
not. The only way you could not be is if you hacked into a router or
injected your nasty, miserable NNTP traffic directly into the fiber
optics or something, which I find exceedingly unlikely.

These dweebs couldn't hack their way out of a paper bag. The only
"hacking" any of them has done was by one not apparently present in
this thread, and I suspect even he hired some script kiddie or
disgruntled Google employee to do the dirty work, lacking the skills
himself.

They're pathetic, the lot of them. Or they would be if they didn't
pose a genuine threat with the sheer amount of repetition they produce
when they decide to really get on your case.

And my experience with ISPs
is that generally they don't care one way or the other; all of the times
I've reported abuse has gone unnoticed by the ISPs.

That won't stop me from at least trying.

Good for you. Maybe you'll get lucky and cause at least one of them to
become a non-problem. Even if it's not one of the ones currently
pestering me, I'll cheer if you do. :)

And what makes you think that I care what you think about me? The fact
that you care what I think about you?

The fact that YOU care what you think about me enough to post it in
public. Repeatedly.

And Joshua gets pwn3d again.

Of course, intellect-wise, debating these clowns is like shooting fish
in a barrel. If they'd only actually *learn* instead of just
responding with denial and repetition, endless repetition...

Sure you are. You are not being nice to me. Therefore you obviously
believe that I did something to deserve your scorn and public hostility
towards me.

The notion that he might just be using you for his own amusement --
"like flies to wanton boys" -- hasn't occurred to you? Unfortunately,
the internet has given sadistic psychopaths a "safe" outlet for their
desires, where there's a much reduced risk of getting arrested or shot
or other inconvenient things like that.

Mind you, you're completely wrong. I'm innocent. I didn't do it. I am
not any of those things -- stupid, incompetent, lazy, and crazy having
been the main charges claimed.

Oh boy. All the usual intellect-based insults already used. Next come
the unwanted sexual innuendos and accusations of perversion, in my
experience. Brace yourself.

Indeed, you've been wrong (or outright lied) about nearly everything
that you've posted in this thread.

This, you'll find, is normal with drones.

You did get one thing right in this latest post of yours, though. It was
the part where you admitted that you don't have anything worthwhile to
say, and you noted that anyone reading your crap quickly realizes this.

This, you'll find, is also normal with drones. Frequently they will
accidentally let something really stupid or incriminating slip out of
their mouths. They are very consistent in most respects, but not in
this, which is quite random and sporadic, nor in how they respond when
caught out: 1 in 3 chances of each of denial, proud acknowledgment(!),
or trying to rewrite history by claiming that they never wrote
whatever they wrote.
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