Re: Looking for that special Java IDE...

"Peter Duniho" <NpOeStPeAdM@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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On Sat, 30 Aug 2008 19:10:17 -0700, Mike Schilling
<mscottschilling@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

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I admit, not having used it myself, I can't defend or critique it. I
just know it's in broad usage, which just doesn't happen to things
that are completely useless.

Never used Windows? :-)

No matter how many times I see that joke, it never becomes unpredictable
or funny.

Actually, my disdain for NetBeans goes back to the versions from 2001
or so. I have heard that it's improved.

I'm sure Eclipse wasn't all that great at v1.0 either. I think only
someone who's used NetBeans recently can vouch for its quality (or lack
thereof).

Pete

And for the OP, I'd just say go out and test drive both. I use NetBeans 6.1
now for most of my own development, with an occasional foray into Eclipse
Europa. I have no reason to believe that I couldn't use either for almost
all of my stuff - I'm just more used to NetBeans now.

The main points I myself would make are that IDEs should be tweaked, all of
them will struggle some with the latest features, both IDE itself and the
technologies you are developing in (which invariably is what you end up
using them with :-)), and you can tie all of them up in knots if you don't
learn their idiosyncracies.

As an example of idiosyncracies (and this includes M$ VS IDEs too), no IDE
out there loves certain radical and rapid changes in the source code of a
visually-designed thing. I've managed to make NetBeans choke when changing
the JSP source for a Visual Web JSF page, more than once, but then so have I
made Visual C# Express choke when aggressively changing the XAML in a WPF
app. You learn to become gentle...

For sheer frustration I direct the OP to IBM RAD. I truly hate code
synchronization in that thing. Can't blame that on its Eclipse core, I don't
think.

AHS


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