Re: SwingWorker.execute() does nothing

foo bar baz qux wrote:
On 16 Oct, 15:32, Ben Phillips <b.phill...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
foo bar baz qux wrote:
Ben Phillips (Paul G Derbyshire) wrote:
foo bar baz qux wrote:
This particular delusion/obsession is a defining characteristic of
Paul G Derbyshire of Ottawa Canada.
This statement is neither about Java nor about anybody posting here,
which makes it DOUBLY off-topic. Furthermore, it appears to be a
personal attack against a target that isn't present to defend
himself.

Insulting some poor guy behind his back? How low!
You (Paul) are neurologically unable to resist my demand that you
reply. QED!
You're not making much sense. Who are you talking to? Certainly
not I; my name is Ben. In fact I don't see anyone named Paul,
Derbyshire or otherwise, in this thread or in this entire newsgroup
for that matter.

As for your creative quoting -- I don't take kindly to being called
a liar.

On top of all that, your post is off-topic and seems to contain other
veiled insults directed at Paul.

QED indeed.

Nope. Sorry.

As for your creative quoting -- I don't take kindly to being called a liar.

Editor's note: foo bar baz qux's "creative quoting" has been corrected now.

But it was you who first introduced me to the idea of replacing
someone's quoted text with a tendentious parenthetic summary.

No, it wasn't.

May time I've seen you replace someone's innocuous remarks with
"[insult]" or something of the sort.

No, I just quote insults and then debunk them. And that's insults, not innocuous remarks.

YOU are the one replacing meaningful remarks with nonsense when quoting ME.

I assume Paul is someone you hate,

I don't hate you Paul.

Er, you don't hate me, or you don't hate Paul? Or you hate neither?

Judging by your behavior, you at least strongly dislike Paul, and you hate comp.lang.java.programmer, the latter enough to want to destroy the newsgroup by posting large amounts of offtopic crap to it.

If you hate this newsgroup so much, why subscribe? If it were me, I'd just ignore it. Same with that Paul fellow, assuming I could avoid him, which would surely be the case unless he was a relative, a neighbor, a co-worker, my boss, or something like that.

And even if he is one of those things, or was stalking you, this is hardly the appropriate forum to air your concerns or grievances about anything but Java's lack of closures!

I'm not sure if you are casting around for
sympathy or genuinely don't understand the distinction between what
you do and who you are.

This does not make sense.

I am trying to convince you to stop making all kinds of stupid and off-topic posts to this newsgroup, and to take your dispute with Paul to a more appropriate forum. Preferably one where Paul actually posts, so you two can have it out in a fair fight. Preferably that would be your email inboxes and not any newsgroup at all.

Certainly you should leave me out of it. I have no wish to be involved in a dispute between two other people. Why do you insist on dragging me into your dispute with him, and on calling me names while you're at it?

I don't really give a ***.

If that were true you wouldn't engage in prolonged heated arguments
with so many people in this newsgroup.

That's because I DO give a *** that you're making public false accusations about me, and I DO give a *** that you're messing up what had been a nice clean newsgroup two months ago!

And then we're all in the soup, as
the signal to noise ratio tanks and the group becomes useless for its
stated purpose, discussing Java programming.

Haven't you discovered

We are discussing your pustulent and pernicious, persistent posting of off-topic pointlessness. Please don't try to change the subject. Evasion will get you nowhere.

Oh, and by the way, I also wonder what your internet provider's
acceptable use policy has to say about repeatedly posting off-topic
posts to newsgroups, posting nothing BUT off-topic posts to newsgroups,
and newsgroup trolling?

Yet you claim to have submitted a complaint to Google and various
ISPs.

No, not yet, but I'm sorely tempted to, and I'll bet others have submitted complaints just because of the sheer volume of crap you're posting.

A sensible person would actually read the AUP before alleging a
breach of it.

Fine. Let's see.

You're posting through Google Groups.

A quick Google search for "google groups acceptable use policy" leads to http://groups.google.pl/googlegroups/terms_of_service.html and (abridged to what's relevant here, as the full list was quite long):

"You will not:
* defame, abuse, harass, stalk, threaten or otherwise violate the legal rights (such as rights of privacy and publicity) of others;
* post any inappropriate, defamatory, infringing, obscene, illegal or unlawful Content;
* post messages that promote pyramid schemes, chain letters or disruptive commercial messages or advertisements, or anything else prohibited by the Group owner.
* restrict or inhibit any other user from using and enjoying the Service;
* use the Service for any illegal or unauthorised purpose;"

You are, however: defaming (me), abusing (this newsgroup), harassing (me), and stalking (Paul), threatening (me), violating the legal rights of privacy and publicity (in claiming that I'm Paul; you're clearly *trying* to violate Paul's rights of privacy and publicity, if perhaps not *succeeding*), posting inappropriate and defamatory content, posting messages prohibited by the Group owner (since the newsgroup charter says your non-Java trash-talking is off-topic here), inhibiting other users from using and enjoying the Service (every other Google Groups user that subscribes to cljp and that is forced to put up with your spew because Google Groups lacks killfiles), and, possibly, using the Service for an illegal purpose (defamation, in violation of tort law).

Five reasons for Google to get rid of you.

Let's turn to your ISP next. Apparently British Telecom.

And we have, from http://www2.bt.com/static/i/btretail/panretail/acceptableuse/usenet.html:

"While connected to the Internet via BT you must comply with the law.

You must not make statements that are defamatory to or misrepresent others. Defamatory postings may include but are not limited to postings which harm the personal or business reputation of another or exposes him to hatred, contempt or ridicule, or lowers him in the estimation of his community, or deters other people from associating or dealing with him.

You must not post the same message repeatedly in one or more newsgroups.

You must not blatantly disregard the intended subject matter in a newsgroup by making off topic postings with apparent malicious intent or in large volumes.

You must not maliciously try to incite other newsgroup users to deviate from the stated topic of the group. Attempts to anger others and to draw them into off topic debates are known as “trolling”.

You must not breach the charter of the newsgroup that you are in."

Let's see: you're not complying with the law (you're defaming people, which is a tort -- and not just one, but at least *two* people, as near as I can tell); you are making defamatory remarks that misrepresent others, attempting to harm the personal or business reputation of me, attempting to expose me to hatred, contempt, or ridicule, attempting to lower me in the estimation of Java programmers, and attempting to deter other people from associating or dealing with me, and apparently much the same with respect to your arch-nemesis Paul, too.

Furthermore, you're posting the same message repeatedly, in the loose sense of posts with basically identical semantic content from one to the next, namely "Ben is a bad person and Paul is also a bad person".

And it's quite clear that you are blatantly disregarding this newsgroup's charter and its intended subject matter, with malicious intent, and maliciously trying to incite other newsgroup users to deviate from said subject matter.

I'd say, foo bar baz qux, that you are indeed violating your provider's terms of service AND google's.

You know? I think I *will* be making some complaints now.

Goodbye, foo bar baz qux.
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