Re: [ANN] Oracle JDeveloper 10g production is now available for download.

From: shay (gevatron_at_yahoo.com)
Date: 04/18/04

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    steve <me@me.com> wrote in message news:<0001HW.BCA7C86A0004D36FF03055B0@news.newsguy.com>...
    > On Thu, 15 Apr 2004 00:07:06 +0800, shay wrote
    > (in article <92653779.0404140807.aec27e3@posting.google.com>):
    >
    > > Oracle today released the new Oracle JDeveloper 10g.
    > > The focus of this version is on simplifying J2EE to enable more
    > > developers to join the Java camp. However, experienced developers will
    > > find many useful features for them too.
    > >
    > > A partial list of the new features:
    > >
    > > Visual Struts page flow modeler for the struts-config.xml file
    > > Visual layout editor for JSP/HTML and Swing applications
    > > Deployment wizards for Oracle AS, Weblogic, JBoss, Tomcat
    > > Drag and Drop data binding to JSP and Swing UI. (works for EJB, Web
    > > services, JavaBeans, Toplink and Oracle ADF Business components)
    > > UML modeling and code generation for Java classes, EJB, database
    > > objects, and Web services.
    > > Design pattern implementation for EJB
    > > Integrated TopLink for O/R and persistence
    > > Web services wizards and WS-I support
    > > Improved code editor for Java, JSP, XML, PL/SQL, HTML
    > > XML Schema visual editor
    > > Hot Swap debugger
    > > Code audits and metrics
    > > And much more
    > >
    > > The MVC based Oracle Application Development Framework (Oracle ADF)
    > > brings all these features together to create a complete application
    > > development process. The framework uses Struts as the controller, and
    > > provides an innovative model layer (the basis for JSR-227) that let
    > > you easily bind EJB, Web services, Javabeans, TopLink, or ADF Business
    > > Components to Web interfaces through simple drag and drop procedures.
    > >
    > > The resulting project can be deployed to any J2EE server and work with
    > > any database.
    > >
    > > Download the complete product with no time limit at
    > > http://otn.oracle.com/products/jdev
    > >
    > > Oracle JDeveloper license is $995.
    >
    > it's actually 9.05 with a 10g "intro screen", I certainly would not pay $1000
    > for the program.
    > the only thing it's got going for it over Eclipse is the visual layout, but
    > even that is seriously flawed.
    >
    > steve

    Oh realy?
    Can you specify where in eclipse do you get any of the following?
     Visual Struts page flow modeler for the struts-config.xml file
     Visual layout editor for JSP/HTML and Swing applications
     Deployment wizards for Oracle AS, Weblogic, JBoss, Tomcat
     Drag and Drop data binding to JSP and Swing UI. (works for EJB, Web
     services, JavaBeans, Toplink and Oracle ADF Business components)
     UML modeling and code generation for Java classes, EJB, database
     objects, and Web services.
     Design pattern implementation for EJB
     Integrated TopLink for O/R and persistence
     Web services wizards and WS-I support
     XML Schema visual editor
     Code audits and metrics

    To get these types of things you'll need to start hunting down and
    buying a huge number of eclipse plug-in. By the time you finish up
    finding and paying for all of those, and making sure they all work
    together without crahing your eclipse, you'll spend so much developer
    time that the developer salary for the time spent will certainly be
    more than the $995 you pay for JDevelopper.

    In any case I wouldn't put Eclipse and JDev in the same level of IDE.
    Eclipse and Intellij is one level.
    JDeveloper, JBuilder, IBM WSAD - are in a different lebel of
    functionality. And in this group, You can't get a better value for
    your money than JDeveloper.


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