Re: So I guess MIT is not good enough anymore?

From: Yoyoma_2 (Yoyoma_2_at_[at-)
Date: 01/25/04 

Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2004 16:28:51 GMT

Yoyoma_2 wrote:

Oh I forgot to say. The link i sent you is for a university in Thunder
Bay (1.5 hours from Deluth MN. ) It's a small worker-type town so the
cost of living is dirt cheap.
1$ CAD = 0.76$ USD

For a citizen the tuition is 4800$ a year but for a non-citizen its 9000
$ but there are 1000$ return bursaries etc... (Uni's in canada are
heavily subsidised by the governments, that's why its cheaper).

But your things around this are cheaper too. I live in a 3-bedroom
townhouse which i rent for 700$/mo. Electricity is 100$ a month and gas
is around 120$ a month but it varies.

Because its a worker-type town, most of the things around town aren't
that expensive. Ex: A movie is 7$.

And also because its a simpler town, you won't be tempted as much to go
do things as you would living in another city, Thereby you can study
more :)

If you have work experience or any type of paper you could apply to get
into 4th year of engineering (out of a 5-year program). Poeple rarly do
it in 2 years though because a 7 engineering courses a semester load is
too heavy. But it's an idea.

For me it really helped with my mathematics and sciences. Since i was
basically in the same boat as you. What makes me so unique vs another
applicant? Well now at least i have the edge because i:

1) After i get my P.Eng, i can certify software. That's a huge selling
point for poeple who wnat to build software. Not necessarly that you
will certify, but that you can.

2) Gives a better background in math, sciences, thermodynamics,
electrical engineering, chemestry, physics, civil engineering,
mechanical engineering... That's something most Comp Sci graduates
don't have.

3) Because you have worked before, being a new grad in this brand-new
field with work experience gives you an edge over everyone else.
Lets say because the programs were made, ex, 7 years ago. That means
that the first poeple that graduated were done 2 years ago. And only
have 2 years of experience. Something to keep in mind.

> JavaJunkie wrote:
>
>> I do put the same hours and more, but if I get laid off because my
>> position
>> gets outsourced to India, then I'll have a hard time getting another job
>> because I don't have a degree from Indian Institute of Technology.
>
>
> The alternative is to go to Canada. Universities in Canada (and Texas
> if I remember) offer a Software Engineering program that is pretty
> unique. If your state sees it this way, with a Software Engineering
> B.Eng, you are able to certify softwares like a civil engineer would
> certify Buildings and Bridges.
>
> Also Engineering, as opposed to comp sci, will give you a background in
> many other fields(such as Electrical Engineering, Chemical Engineering,
> Mechanical Engineering, Physics, Modern Physics).
>
> But this is only if your state (i assume you are from the US) sees that
> software engineers can become engineers.
>
> I'me at a good program here in software engineering. Top 50 in north
> america. Try http://www.lakeheadu.ca/~engwww/soft ...
>
> The way i see it, if the softawre you work on is being outsourced to
> india then it's not critical enough (Because companies like to have
> legal repercussions if something goes wrong, and international lawsuits
> are almost impossible to prosecute). Meaning that maby an engineering
> degree is for you (especially if you want to live in texas or canada).
>
>>
>>
>> "Hacker Beware" <dumbass@hackerbeware.com> wrote in message
>> news:4013656f$0$23954$af4e6cc9@news.usenetguide.com...
>>
>>>> As a programmer I guess I have no choice then to go to ITT, get a
>>>> degree
>>>
>>>
>>> so
>>>
>>>> an American company can hire me. Hey I may even change my name to an
>>>
>>>
>>> Indian
>>>
>>>> sounding one so my resume get considered more.
>>>>
>>>
>>> How about just putting in the hours and working like they do? :>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>

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